Gear Selection
Discussion
Hi guys,
Loving the V8V! It certainly eats petrol but then who cares right
Only gripe I have is shifting into 1st and 2nd, even once the gearbox oil has heated up it's still a bit of a struggle at times. I've read that's simply a cable selection issue so i'm not too worried about it however I have a couple of questions:
- is it damaging the car in any way?
- is it a quick/cheap fix?
Have read this (http://www.derbymotorservices.co.uk/faq/questions/15/Aston+Martin+V8+Vantage+difficult+1st+and+2nd+gear+selection) however i'm trying to decide if I just live with it until I have some spare cash lying about to fix it or if I just go straight to the dealer and sort it.
Car is a 06 V8V with 12k miles.
Cheers guys
Lewis
Loving the V8V! It certainly eats petrol but then who cares right
Only gripe I have is shifting into 1st and 2nd, even once the gearbox oil has heated up it's still a bit of a struggle at times. I've read that's simply a cable selection issue so i'm not too worried about it however I have a couple of questions:
- is it damaging the car in any way?
- is it a quick/cheap fix?
Have read this (http://www.derbymotorservices.co.uk/faq/questions/15/Aston+Martin+V8+Vantage+difficult+1st+and+2nd+gear+selection) however i'm trying to decide if I just live with it until I have some spare cash lying about to fix it or if I just go straight to the dealer and sort it.
Car is a 06 V8V with 12k miles.
Cheers guys
Lewis
I've got a 2008 V8 4.3 with the same issue. It really spoils the car in my view, and I cant believe, with all the testing they did, AM did not know about it before it went on sale!
I did know about this before I bought mine because I prowled this website for a year before buying, and built a list of 'common faults'. Once thing that influenced me to look for a 2007/2008 was that I got the impression a factory mod had addressed the 1st/2nd gear selection issue.
Anyway, mine is a absolute PIG in the winter when cold (even though its garaged) and I have to go from 1st to neutral, do a right-left movement, then into 2nd. Once warm its good (but nowhere near as slick other cars I've had), but I've developed a 'technique' to get into second without sounding like I've just passed my test! I get mine serviced at DMS and Rick put different oil in it.
Also, I posted this issue on the Bamford Rose thread and Mike said:
Hi Vantager.
Do you know if any corrective measures have ever been applied to the gearbox in your cars history?
Firstly, it must be said that the gearbox itself is a fantastic unit and is a credit to the suppliers engineering capability (Grazziano). The gearbox is used in GT4 racing cars where it gets a real punishing, and more-or-less the same configuration is used by Noble. There are few reported leaks (leaks on ASM’s are mainly ASM related not the base gearbox), crunchy synchros or catastrophic failures. In my opinion the quality of this product gets a bad reputation both in manual and ASM form down to the factory’s application of the gearbox to their cars through poor selector cables on manual and electronic ASM control issues, which most people think is the gearbox, which it isn’t, it’s the electronic selector mechanism bolted onto the original manual gearbox that is mostly at fault.
A factory service ‘fix’, included oil additives / modified oil, a change to the selector cables and selector arm, but at best, I think the ‘bulking’ feeling was only lessened.
For all GT4 / N24 race cars we fit our own uprated selector cables and an improved short shift mechanism. If you are a critical customer in-tune with how gear selection feels cold, you would be welcome to try these modifications FOC and report back…. They were not specifically designed to cure the cold ‘bulking’ issue – these parts overcome racing issues the standard parts were not man enough for. But I can only think these products would help the cold ‘bulking’ issue.
Mike.
I think I'd like to take Mike up on this offer, but will wait until winter as thats when things get bad. In the summer I tend to forget about it because I can always get 2nd in the warmer weather!
I did know about this before I bought mine because I prowled this website for a year before buying, and built a list of 'common faults'. Once thing that influenced me to look for a 2007/2008 was that I got the impression a factory mod had addressed the 1st/2nd gear selection issue.
Anyway, mine is a absolute PIG in the winter when cold (even though its garaged) and I have to go from 1st to neutral, do a right-left movement, then into 2nd. Once warm its good (but nowhere near as slick other cars I've had), but I've developed a 'technique' to get into second without sounding like I've just passed my test! I get mine serviced at DMS and Rick put different oil in it.
Also, I posted this issue on the Bamford Rose thread and Mike said:
Hi Vantager.
Do you know if any corrective measures have ever been applied to the gearbox in your cars history?
Firstly, it must be said that the gearbox itself is a fantastic unit and is a credit to the suppliers engineering capability (Grazziano). The gearbox is used in GT4 racing cars where it gets a real punishing, and more-or-less the same configuration is used by Noble. There are few reported leaks (leaks on ASM’s are mainly ASM related not the base gearbox), crunchy synchros or catastrophic failures. In my opinion the quality of this product gets a bad reputation both in manual and ASM form down to the factory’s application of the gearbox to their cars through poor selector cables on manual and electronic ASM control issues, which most people think is the gearbox, which it isn’t, it’s the electronic selector mechanism bolted onto the original manual gearbox that is mostly at fault.
A factory service ‘fix’, included oil additives / modified oil, a change to the selector cables and selector arm, but at best, I think the ‘bulking’ feeling was only lessened.
For all GT4 / N24 race cars we fit our own uprated selector cables and an improved short shift mechanism. If you are a critical customer in-tune with how gear selection feels cold, you would be welcome to try these modifications FOC and report back…. They were not specifically designed to cure the cold ‘bulking’ issue – these parts overcome racing issues the standard parts were not man enough for. But I can only think these products would help the cold ‘bulking’ issue.
Mike.
I think I'd like to take Mike up on this offer, but will wait until winter as thats when things get bad. In the summer I tend to forget about it because I can always get 2nd in the warmer weather!
I'll need to look into that bulletin and see if it's the case. I believe it is if it's under warranty (which mine is, but not with an AM warranty) but I could be completely wrong.
Oh and it's not spoiling the enjoyment at all - just a bit annoying. I've just bought the car a few days ago, along with the clear tail light upgrade, insurance (i'm only 24 so it's a sore one) and holiday to keep SWMBO happy so if it can wait until next months pay packet then happy days, if not then needs must and i'll sort it, that's the only reason I asked
Oh and it's not spoiling the enjoyment at all - just a bit annoying. I've just bought the car a few days ago, along with the clear tail light upgrade, insurance (i'm only 24 so it's a sore one) and holiday to keep SWMBO happy so if it can wait until next months pay packet then happy days, if not then needs must and i'll sort it, that's the only reason I asked
JohnG1 said:
vantager said:
I have to go from 1st to neutral, do a right-left movement, then into 2nd.
Have you tried - clutch down, out of first, clutch up, clutch down and into second? That was what I used to do in my V8. Just an option.Gassing Station | Aston Martin | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff