DB7 Vantage Brake Discs and Pads

DB7 Vantage Brake Discs and Pads

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wokkadriver

Original Poster:

695 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Hi, All,

Looking for some recommendations for new discs and pads for my DB7 Vantage...

EBC Red Stuff pads and turbo groove or ultimax slotted (both EBC) seem to be what a google search suggest.


Any Thoughts, chaps?

yeti

10,523 posts

281 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Why move away from the excellent Brembo set-up? Always thought my DB7 stopped as well as it went on standard system!

You looking to upgrade or just replace cheaply?

wokkadriver

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695 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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I am not planning to move away from the original set up, I was doing my best to source reasonably priced parts! I know most things Aston are not what one would call 'cheap' I was hoping to find discs and pads at a touche less than the £1535.99 plus fitting from HWM! Even some independants are quoting around £1300.

michael gould

5,692 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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£1300 for a full set of discs and pads sounds not unreasonable.......you could always buy a Ford Fiesta in which case a full set of discs and pads fitted by a main dealer would cost less than £500 !! smile

wokkadriver

Original Poster:

695 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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michael gould said:
£1300 for a full set of discs and pads sounds not unreasonable.......you could always buy a Ford Fiesta in which case a full set of discs and pads fitted by a main dealer would cost less than £500 !! smile
Really? I mean... Really really?

A lot is made of so-called 'high performance' items, especially from Aston Martin, whose gambit seems to be to take the cost of an item, double it and add a zero. (By way of example, small 5ml stick of touch up paint from a dealer quoted at "£35, Sir.... Plus VAT.")

I am not an idiot and wouldn't dream of scrimping on safety items like brakes and tyres, but in the same way people chose for themselves on whether they fit after-market wheels or different tyres according to preference, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to chose any number of parts from reputable companies - surely that's what the free market economy is based on?


JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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wokkadriver said:
Really? I mean... Really really?

A lot is made of so-called 'high performance' items, especially from Aston Martin, whose gambit seems to be to take the cost of an item, double it and add a zero. (By way of example, small 5ml stick of touch up paint from a dealer quoted at "£35, Sir.... Plus VAT.")

I am not an idiot and wouldn't dream of scrimping on safety items like brakes and tyres, but in the same way people chose for themselves on whether they fit after-market wheels or different tyres according to preference, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to chose any number of parts from reputable companies - surely that's what the free market economy is based on?
Lots of parts behind the scenes in many Aston Martins are actually Ford or Volvo. A decent indy garage can advise you of when you can swap out.

Over on the Lambo forum there are a few threads where people have seen an Audi part that is the same as the Lambo part but is half of the price.



XlBilbo

65 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I fitted EBC redstuff pads and grooved and dimpled discs all round to my DB7i6 and it has transformed the brakes from average to excellent.
I can't speak for the Vantage though I'm afraid.
Cost? About £500.

williamp

19,491 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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JohnG1 said:
Lots of parts behind the scenes in many Aston Martins are actually Ford or Volvo. A decent indy garage can advise you of when you can swap out.

Over on the Lambo forum there are a few threads where people have seen an Audi part that is the same as the Lambo part but is half of the price.
Yes. Although the older V8 from the late 60s/70s shared its brake calipers with the Lambo Muira. Not sure which is cheaper there!

As others have said £1500 for four corners of Brembo is not too bad at all. You might try asking Brmebo direct for costs, perhaps?

michael gould

5,692 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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wokkadriver said:
michael gould said:
£1300 for a full set of discs and pads sounds not unreasonable.......you could always buy a Ford Fiesta in which case a full set of discs and pads fitted by a main dealer would cost less than £500 !! smile
Really? I mean... Really really?

A lot is made of so-called 'high performance' items, especially from Aston Martin, whose gambit seems to be to take the cost of an item, double it and add a zero. (By way of example, small 5ml stick of touch up paint from a dealer quoted at "£35, Sir.... Plus VAT.")

I am not an idiot and wouldn't dream of scrimping on safety items like brakes and tyres, but in the same way people chose for themselves on whether they fit after-market wheels or different tyres according to preference, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to chose any number of parts from reputable companies - surely that's what the free market economy is based on?
Brembo brakes are expensive because they work.....if you buy an older car (my DB9 is nearly 6 years old, so i speak from experience) then you have to expect to pay out for consumables such as brake pads and discs, and, I dont think £1300 from the indie is expensive.....was that price including fitting and VAT ?

yeti

10,523 posts

281 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I'm sure the likes of Hi-Spec will do a pattern part for this but the OEM Brembos are the ones to have - it is worth finding out what you can get them for from Brembo direct however. Also, if you can *ahem* avoid VAT then parts from the US are far cheaper.

If the £1300 is fitted, bled etc then that's a pretty good deal. Cost comes with the territory I'm afraid, paid £1500 for discs and pads to have the correct replacement OEM Brembos on both my old Jag XKR and my Maser 4200. That's just how much they cost, not AM profiteering, both prices were at Indies.

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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williamp said:
Yes. Although the older V8 from the late 60s/70s shared its brake calipers with the Lambo Muira. Not sure which is cheaper there!

As others have said £1500 for four corners of Brembo is not too bad at all. You might try asking Brmebo direct for costs, perhaps?
Not for me! My brakes are £15,000 for a set of discs, pads, fluid and fitting. Just offering the OP an idea.

michael gould

5,692 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I note the OP is a pilot.......just out of interest how much is a set of brakes for the aircraft you fly.......and can you use an indie or do you have to use the main dealer ?????? smile

wokkadriver

Original Poster:

695 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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michael gould said:
I note the OP is a pilot.......just out of interest how much is a set of brakes for the aircraft you fly.......and can you use an indie or do you have to use the main dealer ?????? smile
No idea, the Queen pays for them! Knowing a little about military procurement, they will doubtless be able to withstand thermonuclear exchange and be pressure tested to 10,000 fathoms, all at a handsome cost, of course...

I am still researching prices, but I have found sets of DB9 discs for £250 as and when it gets to that time for you!

In terms of prices, I have been quoted £1700 fitted by one indie, £1500 by another, so am still digging into it. I have a feeling it may be a wheels off and measure up over the weekend, then go from there. If I strike gold, I'll let you all know!

wokkadriver

Original Poster:

695 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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JohnG1 said:
Not for me! My brakes are £15,000 for a set of discs, pads, fluid and fitting. Just offering the OP an idea.
eekeek

That'll be the carbon then! They never mention that on Top Gear, do they?


michael gould

5,692 posts

247 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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wokkadriver said:
michael gould said:
I note the OP is a pilot.......just out of interest how much is a set of brakes for the aircraft you fly.......and can you use an indie or do you have to use the main dealer ?????? smile
No idea, the Queen pays for them! Knowing a little about military procurement, they will doubtless be able to withstand thermonuclear exchange and be pressure tested to 10,000 fathoms, all at a handsome cost, of course...

I am still researching prices, but I have found sets of DB9 discs for £250 as and when it gets to that time for you!

In terms of prices, I have been quoted £1700 fitted by one indie, £1500 by another, so am still digging into it. I have a feeling it may be a wheels off and measure up over the weekend, then go from there. If I strike gold, I'll let you all know!
are you sure the discs need changing......IMHO dealers tell you to change discs and pads if they only have another 20,000 miles to go.....this happened to me recently with a Honda.....dealer told me that the pads were so worn that they had damaged the discs......I went to look myself and the Honda dealer changed their tune and agreed that there was nothing wrong with the discs and it was just the pads that needed changing....result I saved £220.......As an old mate in the trade told me once "it is the job of the work shop manager to maximise the profit from every car that crosses his workshop threshold" some workshops take this to extremes

JohnG1

3,485 posts

211 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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wokkadriver said:
eekeek

That'll be the carbon then! They never mention that on Top Gear, do they?
If you want to see carbon fibre brakes as a bone of contention pop over to the porker forum. A few folks over there have been stung by excessive wear and needed replacements...

I seem to recall that the top gear review of the V12V was that tall bushy eyebrowed fella driving a V12V around Scotland while listening to some music by the baldy fruitcake from Roxy Music. Not really much to do with the car at all...

LordBretSinclair

4,294 posts

183 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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Please keep us informed of any progress Jonnie. At my last service I was "advised" the discs need changing. To my untrained eye they look fine with just the smallest lip on the edge of the swept area.

wokkadriver

Original Poster:

695 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Hi all,

Okay, I have done plenty of research, including speaking to the UK distributor for Brembo. Bottom line, even the distributor cannot sell me the standard spec for the DB7 Vantage. However, they do now offer an aftermarket upgrade, to the correct size, which they can sell me.

see

http://www.racepads.co.uk/brembo_turismo.htm

for more info...

Clearly they are more money than standard and will require a specially ordered centre hub, but the benefits of an improved disc could be well worth it. Much like tyres, technology moves on and improvements will have been made over the standard fit in the last 10 years... it's just finding it!

skeeterm5

3,584 posts

194 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Sounds a reasonable price to me - Nissan GT-R pads and disks just over £4k, expected maximum lifetime 30,000....

S

Ant2000

538 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Jag Xj6 rear pads will fit the early DB7 rears I must agree why pay £350 for a set of Brembo rear pads im all for cheaper pads and if your disks are wearing out quickly its probably as the pads are harder then the disks themselves but then I do as much work on my cars myself as i can as most garages are crooks smokin