AML - NEW UK SALES

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alscar

4,591 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Jon, what is your view on buying MG shares ( assuming they can be ?) ?

Jon39

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Thursday 8th June 2023
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alscar said:
Jon, what is your view on buying MG shares ( assuming they can be ?) ?

The maker of the SUV cars named MG, is SAIC Motor Corporation Limited.
I understand that firm is entirely owned by the state.

If you were a friend of Chairman Mao or perhaps his successors, you might be able to buy (although don't think it works that way) be given a stake.


alscar

4,591 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Jon39 said:

The maker of the SUV cars named MG, is SAIC Motor Corporation Limited.
I understand that firm is entirely owned by the state.

If you were a friend of Chairman Mao or perhaps his successors, you might be able to buy (although don't think it works that way) be given a stake.
Thanks Jon. I’ll stick with my heart decision of the AML share purchase then smile
As I always said still the least money lost on an Aston bought to date.

oilit

2,660 posts

181 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Jon, Every month shows a YoY decline, but announcing your facelift/new model so far in advance is a sure way of slowing sales of existing models.

It will be interesting to see how sales numbers look in the db12 era

Ninja59

3,691 posts

115 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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oilit said:
Jon, Every month shows a YoY decline, but announcing your facelift/new model so far in advance is a sure way of slowing sales of existing models.

It will be interesting to see how sales numbers look in the db12 era
I thought DB11 books and lines had closed anyway so impact on that side will be obvious. Dealers won't get a DB12 demo until July, so they are likely to be built now, lets not get into whether that translates as a sale, but dealers will be forced to take on a certain number.

Customer deliveries are not until about October from what I got told if you put a deposit down at the Works viewing, so there must be a back order of cars around September ready for the new reg.

Jon39

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146 months

Friday 23rd June 2023
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The DVLA have at last updated their figures for 2022 Quarter 4.
Only about 6 months late, but I suppose we should be grateful.
Working from home and tea drinking, must have slowed their productivity.
Publication used to be quicker than this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...

Move down that webpage and select either the Great Britain, or United Kingdom link.

df_VEH0160_GB:

df_VEH0160_UK:

If you wish after downloading, you can save the file as an Excel spreadsheet.

I think there is only one main dealer in Northern Ireland, so if you want to have a cheeky snoop, at how many new Aston Martins they sell (and when), just compare the UK and GB figures.


Jon39

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146 months

Friday 12th January
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Aston Martin - UK New Registrations December and Annual.

December 2022 = 97
December 2023 = 68
2022 = 1074
2023 = 944


paulbirkin

64 posts

84 months

Friday 12th January
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12% decrease on the previous year. I understand that there is a delay in delivery of DB12, but personally I would have thought sales of DBX would have covered it.
DBX residuals appear to be falling into Range Rover levels. It is going to be difficult going forward to keep people with the brand if the cars are losing £80k in 2 years

Ninja59

3,691 posts

115 months

Friday 12th January
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paulbirkin said:
12% decrease on the previous year. I understand that there is a delay in delivery of DB12, but personally I would have thought sales of DBX would have covered it.
DBX residuals appear to be falling into Range Rover levels. It is going to be difficult going forward to keep people with the brand if the cars are losing £80k in 2 years
Different customers really, but I think the finance rates will have put some off. I do know a few that went away from RR following thefts, but no one is getting an AM based on residuals alone (and to be fair in certain areas of the market we are clearly issues as well regarding residual values).

Jon39

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146 months

Monday 5th February
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A better start to 2024 by Aston Martin.

UK New Registrations.

January 2023 = 106
January 2024 = 135 (+27%)

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Other makes;
McLaren still stand out with low figures, 11 cars, but that was up from last January's 8.

The Chinese are coming;
BYD ................. 248
GWM Ora .......... 56
MG ................. 6711



AstonZagato

12,827 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th February
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paulbirkin said:
12% decrease on the previous year. I understand that there is a delay in delivery of DB12, but personally I would have thought sales of DBX would have covered it.
DBX residuals appear to be falling into Range Rover levels. It is going to be difficult going forward to keep people with the brand if the cars are losing £80k in 2 years
I'm considering replacing my L405 Range Rover and a 2yo DBX looks like value next to a 2yo Rangie (or even a V8 Defender - which are silly money for what they are).

New DBX? Er, no. Just no.

Jon39

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Monday 8th April
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An example of having fun with selective figures.

Lamborghini UK New Registrations;

February 2024 ........................= minus 76%
January & February 2024 ...... = plus 81%

pschlute

722 posts

162 months

Monday 8th April
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Jon39 said:

An example of having fun with selective figures.

Lamborghini UK New Registrations;

February 2024 ........................= minus 76%
January & February 2024 ...... = plus 81%
Mark Twain would be applauding you Jon.

Jon39

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12,994 posts

146 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Released today.
UK April figures show an improvement for Aston Martin.

April 2024 = 77 (+40.00%)
April 2023 = 55

Jan to Apr 2024 = 462 (+27.98%)
Jan to Apr 2023 = 361


Jon39

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Friday 5th July
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2024 First Half Year is complete.

UK New Registrations down in June.
UK New Registrations up in first half year.

June 2024 = 72 (2023 = 122)
Jan to June 2024 = 584 (2023 = 547)


Jon39

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Yesterday (16:02)
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Some general market observations that may be of interest.
Clearly AML are positioned in the premium market, but as we saw in 2009, they can still be affected by general market and economic conditions.

It appears that private buyers are increasingly turning to purchasing used cars.
An interesting situation at Ford, where a dealer talks about fewer new models that his customers want to buy, and although used models have strong demand, sourcing stock is becoming increasingly difficult.

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So why are private new car sales performing so badly?

There are several reasons why private new car sales have been falling for the last eight years, but the biggest is that buyers have been buying ever-more expensive cars on car finance agreements and then trying to fit those into income budgets that have not been increasing at the same rate.


Longer car finance terms

PCP car finance has been around since the 1980s, but it really started to take off in about 2010 in conjunction with a government scrappage scheme – launched in the depths of the great financial crisis in 2009 and helped by record low interest rates. Long story short, customers could buy a more expensive car for lower monthly payments than they had been used to, and they liked it.

But cars, and customer tastes, got even more expensive. So rather than buying cheaper cars to keep their payments down, buyers started taking longer agreements instead. The default PCP term shifted from three years to four years, and that meant 25% fewer new car buyers each year as everyone kept their existing car for a year longer.


Cars have become much more expensive

New cars have also become increasingly expensive over the last decade. To pick one popular car as an example: Back in 2015, the then-new Vauxhall Corsa launched with a starting price of £8,995. Today, a new Corsa starts at £18,505 – more than double the price.

Over the same period, average weekly earnings haven’t come close to matching that level of increase, and real-world average disposable income hasn’t really increased at all for many people.


Higher interest rates make car finance more expensive

On top of the extreme price increases, the cost of financing a new car has increased significantly as interest rates have climbed over the last couple years after more than a decade at record lows. This adds a significant extra chunk onto monthly payments for a PCP (or a lease, but the costs of leasing are much more opaque).

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At Platts of Marlow, a Ford retail dealer that will celebrate 100 years in the Berkshire town in 2025, they’re contemplating life without new Blue Oval cars.

“Even now, there’s such a limited range of Ford models left to sell,” said Jim Platt, company chairman and son of the founder.

“Once we had as many as 30 but now we’re down to five. “The Fiesta, which used to account for 50% of our sales, is no longer made and the Focus will soon be dropped. These are the models we can sell to private, retail customers. Fortunately, we can still offer them the Puma, which is our best-seller.”

Platt said the absence of a wider range of alternative models means his new car sales are down by 30%.

Fortunately, he’s finding that many private customers who miss the old models and who aren’t interested in electric cars are prepared to part-exchange their cars for used and nearly new Fords instead.

However, according to Platt, sourcing such cars is becoming harder by the month as more dealers compete to buy stock.

One hundred miles away in Dudley, West Midlands, this scenario of declining sales of new cars to private customers is also being played out at Summit Garage.

The dealership, founded 80 years ago, currently holds the MG franchise but will soon quit it due to declining retail sales.

Co-owner John Newey said: “The motor trade is facing some difficult times at the moment, with the decline in the number of customers actually purchasing. I know that MG has in its own words been growing exponentially but the reality is, this year, there has been more pressure with less and less retail business.”