The new Vantage?

[sticks090460]

Kerniki said:

sticks090460 said:

Drove one today whilst my 2019 version was being serviced. The way it gets the power down is a huge improvement over my car; how much is down to PS5s on 21” vs P-Zero on 20” I’m not sure. The on-paper figures give you no clue on how much faster the new car feels, and it does it with no drama whatsoever; the gear changes are now practically seamless, rather than having the deliberate pause between ratios. Styling is subjective; I prefer my car, most people seem not to. I wasn’t so blown away by the interior as everyone else seems to be, either. Although I only had 45-50 minutes in the car, I think the interface is very complex, and I don’t like the fact that the suspension, exhaust and throttle map settings are now all fixed programmes unless you go into Individual mode and set the car up manually. Steering wheel is very busy, and the rim is too thick. Shift paddles on the wheel instead of fixed is a change that no-one needed. Another annoyance is the fact that if you’ve gone into manual shifting mode, to go back into auto you can’t just pull on the up paddle - you have to press a button on the centre console for one second; takes you eye off the road and nothing like as intuitive. Car sounds very different, which was a surprise given the essentially similar engine. The over-riding impression left was of the driving experience however, and that’s a big step on from the current car.

Thanks.

Grip will be the e-diff from the took from the AMG GTR/C i’d imagine, they have no problem deploying 700hp either.

Most importantly for me, what was the ride like in its softest setting? vs your car?

Europe are lagging well behind on demos so not had a ride yet, and ride comfort is my no.1 concern with this car and a uk road test is probably the more testing

Ride comfort was good in the softest setting, a bit jiggly in Sport+ and positively not nice in Track. This is why I’d be running in individual with Sport+ throttle and Sport suspension. Body control is really good, with roll much better contained than in my car, even in Sport. So, the ride in a straight line was pretty much the same except for slightly better control after longer bumps, but once you hit some bends, the new car is superior.

[RichB]

sticks090460 said:

<clip> Another annoyance is the fact that if you’ve gone into manual shifting mode, to go back into auto you can’t just pull on the up paddle - you have to press a button on the centre console for one second; takes you eye off the road and nothing like as intuitive. ...

I've not driven one of these but that sounds weird. In my Porsche with PDK it was in automatic but you simply pulled a paddle to drop a gear, say in readiness for an overtake, you were then in manual mode but if you left it for 30 seconds it would revert back to auto gear selection. Very intuitive.

[Davil]

RichB said:

I've not driven one of these but that sounds weird. In my Porsche with PDK it was in automatic but you simply pulled a paddle to drop a gear, say in readiness for an overtake, you were then in manual mode but if you left it for 30 seconds it would revert back to auto gear selection. Very intuitive.

That would drive me completely insane. The Vantage single pull to switch modes is the best interface I have used. The second best is BMW M DCT with a sideways pull of the central gear lever. If my car switched itself out of manual mode I’d return it.

[Kerniki]

sticks090460 said:

Kerniki said:

sticks090460 said:

Drove one today whilst my 2019 version was being serviced. The way it gets the power down is a huge improvement over my car; how much is down to PS5s on 21” vs P-Zero on 20” I’m not sure. The on-paper figures give you no clue on how much faster the new car feels, and it does it with no drama whatsoever; the gear changes are now practically seamless, rather than having the deliberate pause between ratios. Styling is subjective; I prefer my car, most people seem not to. I wasn’t so blown away by the interior as everyone else seems to be, either. Although I only had 45-50 minutes in the car, I think the interface is very complex, and I don’t like the fact that the suspension, exhaust and throttle map settings are now all fixed programmes unless you go into Individual mode and set the car up manually. Steering wheel is very busy, and the rim is too thick. Shift paddles on the wheel instead of fixed is a change that no-one needed. Another annoyance is the fact that if you’ve gone into manual shifting mode, to go back into auto you can’t just pull on the up paddle - you have to press a button on the centre console for one second; takes you eye off the road and nothing like as intuitive. Car sounds very different, which was a surprise given the essentially similar engine. The over-riding impression left was of the driving experience however, and that’s a big step on from the current car.

Thanks.

Grip will be the e-diff from the took from the AMG GTR/C i’d imagine, they have no problem deploying 700hp either.

Most importantly for me, what was the ride like in its softest setting? vs your car?

Europe are lagging well behind on demos so not had a ride yet, and ride comfort is my no.1 concern with this car and a uk road test is probably the more testing

Ride comfort was good in the softest setting, a bit jiggly in Sport+ and positively not nice in Track. This is why I’d be running in individual with Sport+ throttle and Sport suspension. Body control is really good, with roll much better contained than in my car, even in Sport. So, the ride in a straight line was pretty much the same except for slightly better control after longer bumps, but once you hit some bends, the new car is superior.

Thanks Sticks, unfortunately ive not been in the outgoing model for a reference point, my recent DBS SL test was very positive, also the Vanquish S i owned 2 years ago i found rode very well, have you been in either of these cars?

[sticks090460]

Kerniki said:

sticks090460 said:

Kerniki said:

sticks090460 said:

Drove one today whilst my 2019 version was being serviced. The way it gets the power down is a huge improvement over my car; how much is down to PS5s on 21” vs P-Zero on 20” I’m not sure. The on-paper figures give you no clue on how much faster the new car feels, and it does it with no drama whatsoever; the gear changes are now practically seamless, rather than having the deliberate pause between ratios. Styling is subjective; I prefer my car, most people seem not to. I wasn’t so blown away by the interior as everyone else seems to be, either. Although I only had 45-50 minutes in the car, I think the interface is very complex, and I don’t like the fact that the suspension, exhaust and throttle map settings are now all fixed programmes unless you go into Individual mode and set the car up manually. Steering wheel is very busy, and the rim is too thick. Shift paddles on the wheel instead of fixed is a change that no-one needed. Another annoyance is the fact that if you’ve gone into manual shifting mode, to go back into auto you can’t just pull on the up paddle - you have to press a button on the centre console for one second; takes you eye off the road and nothing like as intuitive. Car sounds very different, which was a surprise given the essentially similar engine. The over-riding impression left was of the driving experience however, and that’s a big step on from the current car.

Thanks.

Grip will be the e-diff from the took from the AMG GTR/C i’d imagine, they have no problem deploying 700hp either.

Most importantly for me, what was the ride like in its softest setting? vs your car?

Europe are lagging well behind on demos so not had a ride yet, and ride comfort is my no.1 concern with this car and a uk road test is probably the more testing

Ride comfort was good in the softest setting, a bit jiggly in Sport+ and positively not nice in Track. This is why I’d be running in individual with Sport+ throttle and Sport suspension. Body control is really good, with roll much better contained than in my car, even in Sport. So, the ride in a straight line was pretty much the same except for slightly better control after longer bumps, but once you hit some bends, the new car is superior.

Thanks Sticks, unfortunately ive not been in the outgoing model for a reference point, my recent DBS SL test was very positive, also the Vanquish S i owned 2 years ago i found rode very well, have you been in either of these cars?

No sir. My current car is my first Aston; I’ve had a couple of 911s, Maserati GT, and we currently also have a Boxster. I am very tempted by the new Vantage, but will probably wait a year or so before comitting.

[RoNNy379CH]

here in switzerland the first one 2024 Vantage is available. For 333 333 CHF (289369 GBP) very pricy....


LINK

[Jon39]

RoNNy379CH said:

here in Switzerland the first one 2024 Vantage is available. For 333 333 CHF (289369 GBP) very pricy....

Are there huge taxes in Switzerland to reach that price?

How many V8 Vantages at £290,000 would they sell in the UK ?
Two for each dealer (demonstrator and showroom) would be my guess.
Strong demand would not be present at that pricing, for the core main model.

[RoNNy379CH]

Jon39 said:

Are there huge taxes in Switzerland to reach that price?

we have normally 8.1% only.