T350 Review in Daily Telegraph today

T350 Review in Daily Telegraph today

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whitey

Original Poster:

2,508 posts

290 months

Saturday 17th April 2004
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jeez no wonder the prat that wrote the review has been banned by TVR from reviewing their cars in the past. I bet he was bullied at school and for someone with the surname "English" he does not seem patriotic. I also would guess he loves Porsches and BMW's. Tall poppy syndrome indeed.

prat prat prat.

No wonder the PR boys in Blackpool are rude to him, I'm surprised they did not deck him, let alone allow him to review a car.

cheers
Whitey

julianc

1,984 posts

265 months

Saturday 17th April 2004
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At least his kids had more sense than him: 'Cooool car, Dad!'

Julian

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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I just read it. 'Interesting' point of view by the author. Can someone dig out a copy and remind me of the author's name?

Big_M

5,602 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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Ted - it was Andrew English - plus a short column by Peter Hall

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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Thanks Deb.

wrinkly

755 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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The Telegraph story was pretty terrible though. The chap seemed to get into the car with a huge chip on his shoulder to start with.

Big_M

5,602 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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Sounded like he was a lentil eating Volvo driver if you ask me. He obviously didn't like yellow cars or something that turned heads. His kids have a lot more sense.

Podie

46,643 posts

281 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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The man obviously doesn't like TVR's... and whilst ever other article I have read praises the design of the "boot" hinges and filler... he was overly critical.

Got the impression he just didn't "get" what TVR are all about... evidently not to everyones tastes..

bennno

12,521 posts

275 months

Sunday 18th April 2004
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as a former t350 owner i think his comments were fair.

it does piss petrol in your face every time you open the fuel filler, it does stink of resin, it is an interesting design but badly executed with glue daubed everywhere.it does bounce you up and down and rattle you about, followed one down the motorway the other day and boy was it pogo-ing.and if the targa panels were deafening at 80 then so be it, say what you see

he did say it had an engine note to die for, loads of grunt....which again it does

his comments making it out to be a bit embarrassingly obvious are possibly supported by the colour of the demo

Bennno

NickD

417 posts

268 months

Monday 19th April 2004
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I for one would love to see a really positive review but I don't think it was necessarily bad. I agree with bennno - from reading everyone's comments on here re. their experiences it did seem that he was only moaning about the same things that owners have done, eg. the speedo, the fuel filler etc.

I think the reviewer is generally right to expect that those cars lent to journos to be more sorted than those sold to public. At least no one can quiblle that this is the case with TVRs!

ettore

4,289 posts

258 months

Monday 19th April 2004
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Andrew English also drives and races an Aston Martin DB5 so I don`t think he`s got an anti-brit thing going on!

The Pits

4,289 posts

246 months

Monday 19th April 2004
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I thought he rather liked it, though bright yellow is a crazy choice for such a good looking, and for a TVR, understated car. It always comes down to the same thing though, good machines vs involving cars. The better the machine (ie german cars) the less the involvment. I tried an M5 the other day, so beloved by journalists. I nearly died of boredom at the wheel. If I had one I'd bounce it off the limiter everywhere I went until I was sent to prison or hospital. It was sooooo boring at 120 because it was so good. A TVR at 30 mph, heck make that 0 mph, is exciting. You can't have it both ways.

mannginger

9,428 posts

263 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2004/04/21/emftvr21.xml

For all of you who missed the paper version.

The "addendum" at the bottom makes it all worthwhile somehow. (Now where's my gun and the nearest bank)

Phil

manek

2,977 posts

290 months

Thursday 22nd April 2004
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wrinkly said:
There's also a review in the Independent


http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/motoring/tests/story.jsp?story=511148

Does this bloke normally review washing machines for the Consumers Association mag Which? What was the point?

BCMS

241 posts

288 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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los angeles said:
Thanks for the read, Manginger.

The review is what we call in the literary world, "too clever by half" - an attempt to entertain which comes over as smart-assed; his punch-line timing poor. The good points he touches on are drowned in his attempts at coining memorable aphorisms and epithets. The author is capable of neither. He has taken his brief, to test an exciting new car, as a joke, and reported upon it in that manner. If I was thinking of buying a T350 (and I was once) I'd look elsewhere for clear insight and knowledge. If I wanted a guy to write a Laurel and Hardie comedy sketch I might short list him. But then, the best joke, about bananas, wasn't his.


Thank you you have just saved me writing exactly the same things. This type of "article" has been done so many times before, I was irritated before the end of the first paragraph and found myself thinking, yeah cut the crap d**khead and tell me about the car. He did briefly comment on it but you had to look very hard. Half the time he was trying to defend himself! I fought back my yawns and did reach the end of this literary sh*te but was left with exactly the same impressions as Los Angeles. This guy would obviously be far happier in a 206 cc as he has completely missed the point.

blueyes

4,799 posts

258 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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QUOTE: siamesed speedo and rev-counter dials and needles working clockwise and counter-clockwise to meet in the middle at 150mph and 6,000rpm, UNQUOTE

Lets try 200mph and 9000rpm. Twat!

QUOTE: all in the dark, you understand, as there is no interior light UNQUOTE.

Arse!


There are so many errors in this piece that I believe he reviewed it from the pub.



K.K.

397 posts

244 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Didn't Jeremy Clerkson say the T350 was the best TVR he'd ever driven? (but then I think he ruined everything by prefering that new Noble thing!