This months EVO mag

This months EVO mag

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mad-dot

Original Poster:

341 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th November 2003
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Refreshing piece by Gareth Wardell on page 67

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th November 2003
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...has just dropped through the letter box, and I'm on subscription. Is that a record for lateness? Think I'll start a new thread "where's my EVO?" Rich...

bjwoods

5,017 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th November 2003
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I don't think you can really blame evo for a postal strike!!!??

mad-dot

Original Poster:

341 posts

265 months

Wednesday 12th November 2003
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Quote.."If Morgan is the choice of eccentrics, Porsche the choice of the nouveau riche, then TVR is the choice of the nonconformist."

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th November 2003
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bjwoods said:
I don't think you can really blame evo for a postal strike!!!??
Didn't think I was? Rich...

Mudfish

151 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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I'm an avid reader of Evo, there are always top articles on TVR. I am amazed at the backing they provide TVR when we've yet to see one of their Journo's take on a TVR in the "Fast Fleet" section of the week. I'd love to see the ongoing running problems documented in the mag.

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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Mudfish – and why would you “love” to see that? Surely you aren’t one of those sad people who delight in knocking their own countries products?

Perhaps you would be surprised to know that another magazine had a Cerbera on long term test a few years ago and it performed faultlessly throughout the test. Like you I expect they were hoping to knock it but they were suitably impressed in the end.

Rich...

fizz

251 posts

277 months

Thursday 13th November 2003
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When TVR is ready to sell in the USA, there will be plenty of buyers. I have to think getting the Tuscan USA compliant would be fairly easy. Look at the Elise--nothing has changed other than an airbag (they were given a bumper exemption and a Toyota engine). If the engine is clean, it should have no problems passing EPA regs in the USA.

Mudfish

151 posts

253 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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RichB said:
Mudfish – and why would you “love” to see that? Surely you aren’t one of those sad people who delight in knocking their own countries products?

Perhaps you would be surprised to know that another magazine had a Cerbera on long term test a few years ago and it performed faultlessly throughout the test. Like you I expect they were hoping to knock it but they were suitably impressed in the end.

Rich...

The reason I say "would love" is this. The magazine is (as I am) a backer of UK sportscar manufacturers. TVR needs more media exposure to create interest in the brand, especially so, for the US!

TVR's are undoubtedly "most bang for your bucks", the US market is ideal. Evo magazine do back TVR frequently, this is more often than not followed, in the same paragraph by "reliability concerns". The US market needs to see that this is a minor problem of ownership. Tried and tested & documented ownership trials would go a long way.

In fact the journo's at EVO have emailed me and agree, they are apparently pursueing this as an option.

Thankyou and goodnight.

Mudfish

151 posts

253 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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Just found this on the US TVR's section from 'Fizz', demonstrating what TVR will come up against:

Tuesday 16th September
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I desperately want a TVR. But TVR better want to sell it to me and support it with a strong 3 year bumper to bumper service agreement (build it into the price!) that covers everything but tires and gives me a loaner when the car is being serviced.

It all comes down to servicing/reliability. Once the cars are sufficiently debugged, TVR will come to the USA. The Speed 6 engine needs to be able to do 100,000 miles without needing major work. I don't think the reliability is there.

Buy a Noble!

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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Mudfish said:
Thankyou and goodnight.
Sorry to wake you up again, but you said in your first post that you "would love to see the ongoing running problems documented". Assuming this means what it says it's negative. Now you say you are a fan of British sports cars. Rich...

blueyes

4,799 posts

259 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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fizz said:
When TVR is ready to sell in the USA, there will be plenty of buyers.



Only if TVR fit .. sat nav... climate control.... six airbags......abs..... parking sensors.... electric seats..BIG silencers.. oh yes... and an auto box!!!!



>> Edited by blueyes on Monday 17th November 14:26

gary_tholl

1,013 posts

277 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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blueyes said:

fizz said:
When TVR is ready to sell in the USA, there will be plenty of buyers.




Only if TVR fit .. sat nav... climate control.... six airbags......abs..... parking sensors.... electric seats..BIG silencers.. oh yes... and an auto box!!!!



Now now, just cause we never get the 'good' cars like you guys, don't think that there aren't people here who want a real sports car.

I know of people who think the new Federal Elise is too luxury/heavy.

Just send the damn things over, it'll all work out in the end.

Gary

jigs

1,840 posts

257 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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You forgot jumbo cup holders.

blueyes

4,799 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th November 2003
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gary_tholl said:



Just send the damn things over, it'll all work out in the end.

Gary


O.K. here's the deal... we'll send you TVRs...BUT.. you have to take Tony Blair as well.

Mudfish

151 posts

253 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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RichB said:

Mudfish said:
Thankyou and goodnight.

Sorry to wake you up again, but you said in your first post that you "would love to see the ongoing running problems documented". Assuming this means what it says it's negative. Now you say you are a fan of British sports cars. Rich...


RichB, did you actually read all my comments? I'll try and re-iterate. I meant from the above comment that the dealer network would get a kick up the backside. The Fast Fleet section offers a concise view of ownership and the backup offered by the dealer network for each brand. I would love to see ongoing problems documented! and also see how a TVR dealer would deal with that. Its an opportunity for TVR to shine, which is exactly what the guys at EVO are advocating.

Tha facts are TVR does have a bad rep in terms of reliability and the dealer network does need to buck up their service levels somewhat (or do you disagree?).
TVR do make cracking motors. Customer service seems to be TVR's continual challenge, otherwise half the threads here wouldn't be about faults.

RichB

52,781 posts

291 months

Friday 21st November 2003
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Mudfish said:
RichB, did you actually read all my comments?
yes and I'll re-quote them here
Mudfish said:
I'm an avid reader of Evo, there are always top articles on TVR. I am amazed at the backing they provide TVR when we've yet to see one of their Journo's take on a TVR in the "Fast Fleet" section of the week. I'd love to see the ongoing running problems documented in the mag.
Mudfish then said said:
I meant from the above comment that the dealer network would get a kick up the backside.etc... Its an opportunity for TVR to shine, which is exactly what the guys at EVO are advocating.
Didn't read anything about dealer network etc. in your original post however thanks for setting me straight, it's now about as clear as mud... Rich...

gary_tholl

1,013 posts

277 months

Thursday 27th November 2003
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blueyes said:

gary_tholl said:



Just send the damn things over, it'll all work out in the end.

Gary



O.K. here's the deal... we'll send you TVRs...BUT.. you have to take Tony Blair as well.



Ohhh, you drive a hard bargain... done, box them all up and put on a ship to Canada.

PS. don't punch any airholes in TB's box, thanks.

Gary