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inmate

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3,116 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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Supercar test, Porsche 911 GT3, TVR T350c,BMW M3 CSL,Noble M12 GTO 3R
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So which country builds the best drivers car:Britain or Germany? Well this quartet splits itself into pairs, but not along patriotic lines Although great cars by any normal measure the BMW M3 CSL and TVR 350c bring up the rear, the M3 finishing last, The driving experience is simply not worth the extra £18,720 over a standard M3 The T350c is the Blackpools firms best car yet, but the top pair are in another league The 911 GT3 is fabulous in virtually every area but it is just edged out by the astounding Noble M12 GTO 3R. If you want ultimate driving thrills,buy British

blueyes

4,799 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th October 2003
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It's still faster than a Clio.

_DJ_

4,962 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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I'm not sure I follow. The post was regarding a magazines opinion. Have the magazine incorrectly stated that a clio is faster than the TVR and therefore you're saying we should doubt their opinion, or are you just attempting to shoot the messenger?

GTA

183 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Wasn't the Clio V6 virtually as fast around Top Gears test track, as the 911 carrera etc etc.

nubbin

6,809 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Never much cared for AutoExpress opinions - (probably just my bias) In many ways you get what you pay for - the Noble has now gone over £50k, the Porsche is way beyond that, so comparisons with them flatter TVR, and to beat the M3 CSL is no mean achievement!

All this is a learning curve for the Modern TVR, they're on their way to becoming a great car maker, and it's a very exciting time to be part of it, even if only as a customer.

I feel that it is only in the last 4 years that TVR have justified inclusion in tests with other mainstream sports car manufacturers. The Chimaera and Griff are wonderful cars, but are from the previous generation of idiosyncratic TVR's. The newer cars mix it with the big boys on a level footing, and do very well at it. The fact that they are worthy of inclusion in comparative tests like this, shows how far progress has come. Not bad for sub-£40k cars, really! The cars will continue to develop, especially once the new T350R's get racing, so it will be interesting to see how things develop.

blueyes

4,799 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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_DJ_ said:
I'm not sure I follow. The post was regarding a magazines opinion. Have the magazine incorrectly stated that a clio is faster than the TVR and therefore you're saying we should doubt their opinion, or are you just attempting to shoot the messenger?



Inmate drives a Clio.

_DJ_

4,962 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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That was my point, it's not his fault that a car mag prefers the Noble/Porsche, poor guy!