Tamora Facelift

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bennno

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12,733 posts

276 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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This thing is beautiful, surely TVR should now be using a design studio.

How about this with the Tamora running gear? I want one..

Ben

>>> Edited by bennno on Wednesday 9th January 09:33

christof

905 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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U R right. When I have seen the piccie, my first thought was, is this a new TVR ??? Very nice done, but I loooove the new GT40

Christof

koen

148 posts

279 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Another prototype shown in Detroit, the Infiniti FX45
SUV, has also got some TVR Tuscan influences.
If TVR would build a 5-seater 4x4 Tuscan, this is probably what it could look like (apart from the front chrome grille). You can see it on the Infiniti website
(www.infiniti.com) in the future models section.
Very similar is the design of the windows, and the
round power bulge in the bonnet.
Add a Tuscan grille and the triple headlights and you see what I mean.

Koen.

thom

2,745 posts

280 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Please don't insult the Tamora; that's not really what it needs for the time being


Thom

bennno

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Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Please don't insult the Tamora; that's not really what it needs for the time being

Thom



I am not with you, the car at the bottom of this thread is stunning....surely TVR should be doing something similar.

Ben

nubbin

6,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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The car depicted is a concept - as such it is a design exercise, not necessarily a workable car. Howe many concepts get through to production without significant changes to meet crash regs etc? - very few. the Tamora is a fine car, and very good value - how much would this car cost as a production model? Dreams are fine, but I want my reality, Benno - which should be late Feb!!!

kevinday

12,287 posts

287 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Also note the raised rear cover behind the driver's seat. This indicates to me it is only open top, not too useful in the UK.

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

310 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Nope, supposedly it's a convertible...

bennno

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12,733 posts

276 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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The car depicted is a concept - as such it is a design exercise, not necessarily a workable car. Howe many concepts get through to production without significant changes to meet crash regs etc? - very few. the Tamora is a fine car, and very good value - how much would this car cost as a production model? Dreams are fine, but I want my reality, Benno - which should be late Feb!!!




Good design is no more expensive than average or bad design, take a look at the original picture, that is what TVR should be making??

Ben

flasher

9,238 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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I'm surprised at you benno. I for one am quite happy with the Tamora thankyou. Are you implying you don't like the Tamora without actually driving it?? I intensely dislike the Boxster and found it uninspiring, bland and boring when I drove it. At least go and drive the car before you slag it off. While I appreciate the styling of the back of the Tamora isn't to everyones taste, EVERY magazine has given rave reviews for it's handling and most of them have deemed it a much more rewarding car than the Boxster to drive. Isn't this something to rejoice rather snipe at??

The car you posted above looks good, but it's just a concept and may well handle like a bag of shite. The Tamora is reality and I can't wait to get mine.

paul

343 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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Good design is no more expensive than average or bad design, take a look at the original picture, that is what TVR should be making??

Ben



Possibly, but Nubbin's point is that this is a concept not a road-going car. The picture is digitally manipulated (The car was not photographed outdoors) and contains classic 'concept only' clues - tiny shut lines that would add considerable cost. Panel forming that would only be realistically possible in composite materials (not a trend favoured by mass production facilities). Delicate looking door handles that may need beefing up pre-production. Likely non-compliant wing mirrors, no roof mounting or anchoring points visible on the windscreen surround, non-compliant numberplate mounting and no-visible heat sheilding to protect paint & bodywork from exhaust...the list goes on and culminates in those massive alloys with rubberbands on them - Autechnique in Salisbury used to make dull Mazdas look quite attractive by banging on a set of 18 inch TSW wheels and lowering them and inch.
The trick to manufacturing a drop dead gorgeous looking car is to carefully manage the necessary compromises that occur between design and real world assembly. TVR have a pretty good track record in this regard, although I'll concede that recent models are more of an acquired taste than the Griff and Chimp before them...

Edited by paul on Wednesday 9th January 17:04

bennno

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276 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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It agree you are right...the performance, noise and handling of the Tamora are unbeaten.

But with the looks below it would be a worldbeater.

Ben

thom

2,745 posts

280 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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I am not with you, the car at the bottom of this thread is stunning....surely TVR should be doing something similar.

Ben


I hope they won't because I don't like fat-looking cars...


Thom

flasher

9,238 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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I hope they won't because I don't like fat-looking cars...


Thom



......like a 996 with a moody bodykit...

thom

2,745 posts

280 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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yes, for example, or a 911 turbo


Thom

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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the car looks the bolloxs no doubt about it, but so did the concept boxster, look what that ended up looking like. I don't think the company that brought us the Griff, Chimera, Cerbera and Tuscan needs a design studio, that would be the end of individualism for TVR. I do think they designed the Tamora then tried to make it aerodynamic which might explain it's quirky looks. Benno likes his porker, Flash likes his Tamora and I like my Griff...each to his own I guess

nubbin

6,809 posts

285 months

Wednesday 9th January 2002
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At least with TVR you get to drive a car that looks like a concept car anyway!! They'll never build the Solstice for $20,000. If they can, kiss goodbye to every small sports car manufacturer in the UK and the rest of the world. Hmmm, maybe that's the big boys' idea?....

squirrelz

1,186 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2002
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Don't forget the conversion factor - $20,000 in the states means £35,000 over here......

nubbin

6,809 posts

285 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2002
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Isn't it the other way round $20,000 is about £13000, isn't it?

squirrelz

1,186 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2002
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Have you ever looked at the cost of things in the states then looked at what they cost over here?

You used to be able to use the conversion $ = £
ie Microsoft X-Box $299 in the states, £299 over here.
....but for cars you have to increase it further.