Tamora Wheelarches
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Has anyone else had this problem with their Tamora and what did you do to sort it out....
Inside the Wheelarches on my Tamora, the paint or whatever it is, is peeling/flaking of quite badly. I have never seen this problem on any other car I have owned even when they are really old there is no paint flaking inside the wheelarches.
Inside the Wheelarches on my Tamora, the paint or whatever it is, is peeling/flaking of quite badly. I have never seen this problem on any other car I have owned even when they are really old there is no paint flaking inside the wheelarches.
Has anyone else had this problem with their Tamora and what did you do to sort it out....
Inside the Wheelarches on my Tamora, the paint or whatever it is, is peeling/flaking of quite badly. I have never seen this problem on any other car I have owned even when they are really old there is no paint flaking inside the wheelarches.
I have had almost every other problem going but not this one. Not heard this from anyone else either, on any TVR.
That's gone and done it now
Frostie
I noticed this on mine and was told by my dealer:
Wait for it- you guessed it
They all do that!!!
Can't believe it, will have to have words and get resolved under warranty.
Glenn
P.S.
Can any of you guys let me know what they actually did to fix the problem? Did they just reseal or re prime the flaking patch? Could jus be that my dealer don't know what to do to? Givethemthebenefitofdoubt
>> Edited by COOPS on Wednesday 21st May 08:36
Wait for it- you guessed it
They all do that!!!
Can't believe it, will have to have words and get resolved under warranty.
Glenn
P.S.
Can any of you guys let me know what they actually did to fix the problem? Did they just reseal or re prime the flaking patch? Could jus be that my dealer don't know what to do to? Givethemthebenefitofdoubt
>> Edited by COOPS on Wednesday 21st May 08:36
How bad is this, I still can't believe some of the problems I am getting with this car. It is my first TVR and it is FANTASTIC to drive, but some of these things are just unbelievable. I can understand that a few models might have a few little errors but most of the error's comes from sloppy work and could have been fixed easily. Like using bad glue on the gear stick cover etc. Why havent they tested these things out before they used it. Beat's me?????? Maybe TVR should work together with some German or japanese car company, then we would probably get a TVR that actually lasts and is reliable.
>> Edited by jayTVR on Wednesday 21st May 22:30
>> Edited by jayTVR on Wednesday 21st May 22:30
Im on my 5th new TVR 3 chimps 1 cerb and just got the Tuscan S the paint came off all of them within a few months the solution is a tin of Waxoil under body/wheel arch paint, just paint it on under the wheel arch when it drys it looks great did all my car with it you wont have to do it again and it has a rubbery nature so when it dry it wont crack and flake off....
S1NRR said: Im on my 5th new TVR 3 chimps 1 cerb and just got the Tuscan S the paint came off all of them within a few months the solution is a tin of Waxoil under body/wheel arch paint, just paint it on under the wheel arch when it drys it looks great did all my car with it you wont have to do it again and it has a rubbery nature so when it dry it wont crack and flake off....
Similar to underseal then?
jayTVR said: yep you are right, just got a bit annoyed with all the troubles
I really really love the car, though
Sorry, but I think you were right the first time. Pathetic Quality control and I think most prospective buyers would pay a few quid more to ensure the windows closed, trim was stuck down, paint stayed on...etc. Nobody is saying they need to achieve German levels of finish....but they need to be better than Eastern Europe. My car is three months old and now the doors are getting resprayed because the paint was so thin around the edges that it had worn away!
Yeah...we all love the car...goes without saying but TVR push the limits of your enthusiasm in some respects.
I think 'pathetic' quality control may be a bit over the top.... TVR is not a big company and there is generally a lot of goodwill between the company and the customers and 'even' the dealers. If you have a problem the way to get anything done (with any company) is not to slag them off publically (RIGHTLY or WRONGLY) in public forums.
TVR contributed to a front respray of my GRiff on a paint defect that only appeared 4 years after manufacture. A dealer noticed in and said he would have a word with TVR about it (no promises at the time, and I certainatly was not expecting anything)
So, if you take a look at the size of TVR as a company compared to Porsche etc, I'm absolutely still stunned at how they have managed to produce so many great cars, Griffith, Chim, Cerbera, tuscan, tamora, T350C.
I know quality can always be improved, and has been over the years...
But look at what you are getting for the price, much more performance than a comparable priced (i.e POrsche Boxter S) car.
As long as problems are sorted out by the dealers, (most are pretty good, and pick up a lot at PDI anyway)
just be glad that TVR still exits.
As remember it only exists at the whim of one man Peter Wheeler. I don't believe another owner would keep his vision (like it or not, beit private or another car company.
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>> Edited by bjwoods on Tuesday 27th May 17:46
>> Edited by bjwoods on Tuesday 27th May 18:02
TVR contributed to a front respray of my GRiff on a paint defect that only appeared 4 years after manufacture. A dealer noticed in and said he would have a word with TVR about it (no promises at the time, and I certainatly was not expecting anything)
So, if you take a look at the size of TVR as a company compared to Porsche etc, I'm absolutely still stunned at how they have managed to produce so many great cars, Griffith, Chim, Cerbera, tuscan, tamora, T350C.
I know quality can always be improved, and has been over the years...
But look at what you are getting for the price, much more performance than a comparable priced (i.e POrsche Boxter S) car.
As long as problems are sorted out by the dealers, (most are pretty good, and pick up a lot at PDI anyway)
just be glad that TVR still exits.
As remember it only exists at the whim of one man Peter Wheeler. I don't believe another owner would keep his vision (like it or not, beit private or another car company.
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>> Edited by bjwoods on Tuesday 27th May 17:46
>> Edited by bjwoods on Tuesday 27th May 18:02
I hear what you are saying and I do not disagree with some of your comments.....maybe some of the effort that TVR put into producing new models could be put into an inproved QC regime. I think you also miss the point about these type of forums. These forums are designed to allow individuals with similiar interests to express their opinions amongst other things. TVR quality control, in my opinion, is pathetic and could be vastly improved. So far my dealer has attempted to take care of everything and I have no complaints on this department. It must cost TVR a fortune in warranty claims....money which could be better spent in prevention rather than cure.
There is no doubt that TVR have a loyal band of dedicated enthusiasts which is great and it is great to see the guy who runs the company hustling around in a Tuscan racer at weekends, living the driving experience and re-creating it in the cars or something like that.
Brilliant, fantastic and this is the sort of reasons why I bought a Tuscan S........but the QC is pathetic and should be improved...end of story.
There is no doubt that TVR have a loyal band of dedicated enthusiasts which is great and it is great to see the guy who runs the company hustling around in a Tuscan racer at weekends, living the driving experience and re-creating it in the cars or something like that.
Brilliant, fantastic and this is the sort of reasons why I bought a Tuscan S........but the QC is pathetic and should be improved...end of story.
I understand what you are saying - but this is a PUBLIC forum, not just a forum open to TVR enthusiasts to share information only.
Public forums can very easily damage reputations with unsubstantiated comments/rumours or that can be blown all out of proportion. hence ted' policy on not nameing shaming dealers - Which is correct, for example I do not get on at all with one dealer, but I know people that say the same dealer can not put a foot wrong.
All makes of cars go wrong sometimes and have quality issues, but banging on and on about TVR can give a false impression. People have very long memeories (lots still even think its a kit car manufacturer - just like Lotus 30 years ago - brand new car sold in partial kit form to get around some tax or other)
My wifes business partners brand new Saab 9-3 aero just lost all of its transmission fluid going up the M1.
Virtually all MINI' s were recalled with a potential safety critical issue. Plus a few other recalls.
BMW's had the infamous it's the wrong fuel issue, too much sulphur in the UK.
ETC,etc,etc...
Where TVR (factory)could improve is how they handle larger problems, but is it really such a disaster if a bit of trim comes unglued, (it has in my griff once or twice just glued in back) compared to the overall enjoyment you can get from TVR's
Remember a nasty malicious journalist could be watching, to do a hacthet job. BAD news is so much more newsworthy than Good.
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Public forums can very easily damage reputations with unsubstantiated comments/rumours or that can be blown all out of proportion. hence ted' policy on not nameing shaming dealers - Which is correct, for example I do not get on at all with one dealer, but I know people that say the same dealer can not put a foot wrong.
All makes of cars go wrong sometimes and have quality issues, but banging on and on about TVR can give a false impression. People have very long memeories (lots still even think its a kit car manufacturer - just like Lotus 30 years ago - brand new car sold in partial kit form to get around some tax or other)
My wifes business partners brand new Saab 9-3 aero just lost all of its transmission fluid going up the M1.
Virtually all MINI' s were recalled with a potential safety critical issue. Plus a few other recalls.
BMW's had the infamous it's the wrong fuel issue, too much sulphur in the UK.
ETC,etc,etc...
Where TVR (factory)could improve is how they handle larger problems, but is it really such a disaster if a bit of trim comes unglued, (it has in my griff once or twice just glued in back) compared to the overall enjoyment you can get from TVR's
Remember a nasty malicious journalist could be watching, to do a hacthet job. BAD news is so much more newsworthy than Good.
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Barry,
Whilst I understand where you are coming from I also think TVR's quality control leaves a lot to be desired. Every TVR that comes out of the factory has problems, some of them minor but all too often major. This is a fact which I doubt could be said of many other brands. I have owned 3 TVR's and the quality has been going down hill in my case and compared to the other 18+ vehicles I've owned, been extremely poor. My Tamora is still not 100% after a years worth of going backwards and forwards to my dealer and the factory.
Whilst I admire peoples brand loyality and willingness to back TVR at all costs, I personally don't think this is actually helping as TVR have no real incentive to sort things out.
As you can probably tell, unless things improve significantly in the next few years, I most certainly will not be buying another, despite the fact that as drivers cars I love them to death. There has to come point where you say enough is enough - I have reached that point unfortunately.
Frostie
Whilst I understand where you are coming from I also think TVR's quality control leaves a lot to be desired. Every TVR that comes out of the factory has problems, some of them minor but all too often major. This is a fact which I doubt could be said of many other brands. I have owned 3 TVR's and the quality has been going down hill in my case and compared to the other 18+ vehicles I've owned, been extremely poor. My Tamora is still not 100% after a years worth of going backwards and forwards to my dealer and the factory.
Whilst I admire peoples brand loyality and willingness to back TVR at all costs, I personally don't think this is actually helping as TVR have no real incentive to sort things out.
As you can probably tell, unless things improve significantly in the next few years, I most certainly will not be buying another, despite the fact that as drivers cars I love them to death. There has to come point where you say enough is enough - I have reached that point unfortunately.
Frostie
I think we are largely on the same side here. TVR are an exceptional manufacturer with more positive points than negative and this is to be admired. I also admire the people who after several engine rebuilds can still enthuse about the car. I'm afraid I'm not one of them. I am an enthusiast and spend many an enjoyable night in the garage sorting out creaks, aligning the bonnet, tidying up trim and just admiring the car, especially the engine and underbonnet layout. Suspension and brakes are very nice pieces of engineering as well. The TVR gives me the same buzz as motorcycles do which I admire for their engineering, especially Ducati. They also had QC problems in the '80's but took a committment to resolve them as it was tarnishing their image and ultimately sales. Now they have near Japanese levels of finish and reliability and a cast iron image of exotic engineering and performance backed up by phenomenal race competitiveness.
Enough!! I will now only talk about the good points about TVR which is easy as there are many. Thanks for the banter.
Enough!! I will now only talk about the good points about TVR which is easy as there are many. Thanks for the banter.
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