T350C Magazine Reviews?
Discussion
Does anyone know when/if any of the magazines will get their hands on the T350C (especially EVO)?
Thought we'd have had a decent review by now (not the autoexpress stuff) especially as the dealers are getting their cars.
Christof did they mention anything at the factory?
Gaffer, have you heard anything?
Cheers,
Graham
Thought we'd have had a decent review by now (not the autoexpress stuff) especially as the dealers are getting their cars.
Christof did they mention anything at the factory?
Gaffer, have you heard anything?
Cheers,
Graham
markez79 said: Hi,
I posted this question a couple of weeks back and was told that Evo would probably have an article in their feb issue.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, look forward to it. Wonder if they got the green or the silver car? Would be nice to see it in the other colour.
They loved the Tamora so lets hope they will rave about the T350C.
Cheers,
Graham
The press will get their hands on the car in March when the official media launch begins. Dealers are under strict instructions not to lend their cars to journalists in the meantime. TVR kindly made an exception to PistonHeads.
We'll hopefully be getting someone to give a full test a run-in demonstrator at the same time as the other mags.
We'll hopefully be getting someone to give a full test a run-in demonstrator at the same time as the other mags.
Yes, well done Ted. I was impressed with the early pictures and review of Hawthornes car. Just I am (like everyone else I guess) hungry for information on this car especially as this is rather more attainable than the 440R (well for me anyway).
Graham
>> Edited by Graham B on Thursday 9th January 16:21
Graham
>> Edited by Graham B on Thursday 9th January 16:21
RichB said:So on that basis a magazine could pop along to a dealer and do a test drive of their demo car and get one up on their rival publications? Rich...
Thought we'd have had a decent review by now (not the autoexpress stuff) especially as the dealers are getting their cars.
Graham
When my dealer got their first Tuscan demo in Jan 2000 they kindly agreed to allow me to test drive it (mine had been on order for 3 years!) However I was told that they were under strict instructions not to let anyone even see the car let alone drive it (and I had to promise not to let anyone else drive it or take pictures).
Then when I got my Tuscan in Feb 2000 a guy from CAR mag (or EVO can't remember) called me and asked if he could test drive it. He came round my place and I took him out for a drive but refused to let him drive it (scumbag journo's ect
). I told him he should use my car for their article on the Tuscan (as it was definitely an 'eye catching' colour) and he told me that given PWs recent relations with the press all the magazines had agreed not to run a scoop but to wait patiently for the official press cars in April. And he was right, all the main magazines release their reviews at the same time. 
Hey, if Peter Wheeler is checking out the seen, maybe he would consider the less fortunate of us in the USA who desperately want to have a Tuscan/Tamora/T 350!
I think it is very disappointing that so much time has elapsed since Peter Wheeler was featured in the New York Times and nothing has been done to advance TVR's sales aspirations in the USA!
I think it is very disappointing that so much time has elapsed since Peter Wheeler was featured in the New York Times and nothing has been done to advance TVR's sales aspirations in the USA!
From the wording of your post it is not possible to tell if your disappointment is with TVR or the USA? Remember that the litigious mentality of Americans has made many businessmen like Peter Wheeler understandably cautious of exporting anything to the USA for fear of being bankrupted when someone breaks their figure nail on the door opening!
Personally I believe TVR would be far more sensible to consider exports to other European countries like Germany, Italy and France before considering the USA.
Sorry but the USA could be a minefield for TVR. Rich…
Personally I believe TVR would be far more sensible to consider exports to other European countries like Germany, Italy and France before considering the USA.
Sorry but the USA could be a minefield for TVR. Rich…
I don't get what you are saying. Has anyone sued the daylights out of Lotus (300 cars sold a year)? Morgan(150 cars sold a year)? Porsche? Ferrari? Loamborgini? How about Rolls Royce/Bentley when they were independent?
The only thing I can guess is that you think the build quality of the TVR is so poor that the only ones who would put up with the build issues are those in the UK!
If the build quality is not up to international standards, you are right--TVR should stay in the UK. If TVR has made improvements, what is the difference between selling in Germany and the USA (and it isn't litigation) because the TVR sales in Europe are anemic as well.
The frustrating thing for those of us outside the UK,((I'm in the USA)is that TVR could easily triple their sales if they would expand their horizons. Maybe PW is happy with selling 1200 cars a year--he could do mbetter and that is a fact!
The only thing I can guess is that you think the build quality of the TVR is so poor that the only ones who would put up with the build issues are those in the UK!
If the build quality is not up to international standards, you are right--TVR should stay in the UK. If TVR has made improvements, what is the difference between selling in Germany and the USA (and it isn't litigation) because the TVR sales in Europe are anemic as well.
The frustrating thing for those of us outside the UK,((I'm in the USA)is that TVR could easily triple their sales if they would expand their horizons. Maybe PW is happy with selling 1200 cars a year--he could do mbetter and that is a fact!
Why not, I thought it was pretty clear?
fizz said: I don't get what you are saying.
You tell me, I know there are certain requirements to meet US regulation which TVR may consider too expensive or not desirable.
Has anyone sued the daylights out of Lotus (300 cars sold a year)? Morgan(150 cars sold a year)?
Not comparable to TVR.
Porsche? Ferrari? Lamborghini? How about Rolls Royce/Bentley when they were independent?
Did I say that? I said that many Yanks would be inclined to file a multi-million dollar law suit (that's what you call it isn't it) should they accidentally burn their hand on the catalyst by touching it whilst it is hot!
The only thing I can guess is that you think the build quality of the TVR is so poor that the only ones who would put up with the build issues are those in the UK!
Err. Thought I been through that, however at the risk of repeating myself, Germany does not have the same litigious culture as America.
… what is the difference between selling in Germany and the USA
What isn’t? What are you on about?
(and it isn't litigation)
Doh…. That’s why I suggested they should move into that market!
because the TVR sales in Europe are anaemic as well.
At around 2000 cars p/a TVR consider themselves to be at full production. Rich…
The frustrating thing for those of us outside the UK,((I'm in the USA)is that TVR could easily triple their sales if they would expand their horizons. Maybe PW is happy with selling 1200 cars a year--he could do better and that is a fact!
FYI, Morgan and Lotus have never been sued in the USA.
Regarding Ferrari the suits center around distribution issues that protect FNA and make it difficult to bring a European Ferrari into the USA--though they are the same car!
I am not aware of Porsche having any legal issues whatsever.
My guess is that TVR wants to get the build quality absolutely spot on and then they will come to the USA.
If Morgan can do it, there is no reason for TVR not to!
Regarding Ferrari the suits center around distribution issues that protect FNA and make it difficult to bring a European Ferrari into the USA--though they are the same car!
I am not aware of Porsche having any legal issues whatsever.
My guess is that TVR wants to get the build quality absolutely spot on and then they will come to the USA.
If Morgan can do it, there is no reason for TVR not to!
Don't US bumpers(/fenders) have to withstans a 5mph impact undamaged? The front ends of all TVRs would have to be redesigned to conform to regulations. And possibly airbags would have to be fitted, I'm not quite sure what the differences are in terms of emissions and sound level are though.
Having seen crashed bumpers, the stuff inside them doesn't look all that impressive (styrofoam, I think).
Emissions? How big a difference between North America and Europe is there? I can't picture the USA having more stringent regulations--after all, we are the worlds greatest polluters aren't we?
Noise? I thought our cars were big and brash. You aren't telling me that the Americans are more subdued than the Europeans are you?
Maybe its the airbag thing...
Bottom line, there isn't that great a difference between Japan, Europe and North America. TVR should be able to pull it off. Maybe the Euro three regs will motivate them...
Emissions? How big a difference between North America and Europe is there? I can't picture the USA having more stringent regulations--after all, we are the worlds greatest polluters aren't we?
Noise? I thought our cars were big and brash. You aren't telling me that the Americans are more subdued than the Europeans are you?
Maybe its the airbag thing...
Bottom line, there isn't that great a difference between Japan, Europe and North America. TVR should be able to pull it off. Maybe the Euro three regs will motivate them...
The regulations for approval are less stringent for manufacturers producing under 2,000 cars, this is why I suggested TVR have no interest in going beyond this number. In the "hay-days" of the Chimaera I think they produced around 2,000 cars per annum. I doubt they will produce more. R...
fish fried fred said: Where are we at with European type approval? How different are the European standards vs the British standards?
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