Speed Six aircon compressor alternative

Speed Six aircon compressor alternative

Author
Discussion

non_linear

Original Poster:

297 posts

90 months

Thursday 23rd May
quotequote all
Has anyone found an alternative to the Sanden TRS090 - 3015 aircon compressor, as these have been discontinued.

mk1fan

10,649 posts

232 months

Thursday 23rd May
quotequote all
Not great, but I noticed a couple of used ones from the usual breakers on the bay of evils.

I have a used spare but need to find someone to test / refurb it.

Basil Brush

5,225 posts

270 months

Friday 24th May
quotequote all
This guy over in Australia modified a Holden unit to work on his Cerbera which may more common so easier to track down. The TVR unit only comes up with a 90's Aston Martin application when I've googled the part ID.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...

non_linear

Original Poster:

297 posts

90 months

Friday 24th May
quotequote all
Thanks guys.

I'm looking at other variants of the TRS090 which have a different mounting arrangement, eg TRS090-3011. Need to check the pulley is the same but it should be possible to make a bracket up.

Do you think AC makes sufficient difference to be worth adding to a car?

Granturadriver

629 posts

268 months

Friday 24th May
quotequote all
Strange, these compressors # TVR E2136 were available last summer at motaclan, not that expensive, around 450£ I remember. But now out of stock.

I know that ACS pro in Germany have them, I bought a new one (OEM) from them last year. Unfortunately they do not ship to UK anymore.

And yes, in a T350c an aircon is great in summer and even used with outside temperatur around 20 degrees (yesterday for example).

non_linear

Original Poster:

297 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th May
quotequote all
Granturadriver said:
I know that ACS pro in Germany have them,
Thanks, I can contact them and see if I can persuade them to ship to UK.

I'm rebuilding a Sagaris that originally had it, but for some reason had it removed! I think it makes sense to put it back.

I've just seen Racetech are selling then on a 3 week lead time, but £650 seems a bit strong.


Edited by non_linear on Saturday 25th May 10:20

mrniceguy351

131 posts

60 months

Sunday 26th May
quotequote all
Basil Brush said:
This guy over in Australia modified a Holden unit to work on his Cerbera which may more common so easier to track down. The TVR unit only comes up with a 90's Aston Martin application when I've googled the part ID.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=...
Hey that's me! It was a Ford unit actually.
On this subject:

-I picked a late model Ford Falcon compressor because they are cheap and available. I bought a second hand one from the wreckers and they threw in the hoses and fittings too (this is important). What's the most popular car in the UK these days? Use a compressor from one of them if possible. Nearly everything runs the standard serpentine type belts these day anyway.

-Belts are described in a standard format that includes the overall length and number of ribs.

-You will probably need new hoses made. Any decent hose place can take the fittings from a second hand hose and weld/braze it onto a new one.

-I had to make a new mounting bracket. The compressor I used has the bolts running horizontally rather than vertically. This makes access to the rear bolts very difficult. I will be addressing this soon.

-If you are gassing it yourself with BBQ gas don't turn the cylinder upside down! Liquid destroys compressors! And don't forget the lubricant.

-This is not a five minute job. I have a cnc plasma machine and a mig and Tig welder. If you are just an average Joe it may be easier to track down a standard one and buy that. I only did it because shipping and exchange rate was going to kill me.

-Good luck!

Sagi Badger

610 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th May
quotequote all
OK, BBQ gas?? Thought I knew it all, then I got married 35 years ago and since then realise I know nothing...nothing at all. Educate the Pom pls, WTF is BBQ gas.
I have an HSV VZ Maloo so I know how to BBQ.. LOL

Basil Brush

5,225 posts

270 months

Monday 27th May
quotequote all
mrniceguy351 said:
Hey that's me! It was a Ford unit actually.
On this subject:

-I picked a late model Ford Falcon compressor because they are cheap and available. I bought a second hand one from the wreckers and they threw in the hoses and fittings too (this is important). What's the most popular car in the UK these days? Use a compressor from one of them if possible. Nearly everything runs the standard serpentine type belts these day anyway.

-Belts are described in a standard format that includes the overall length and number of ribs.

-You will probably need new hoses made. Any decent hose place can take the fittings from a second hand hose and weld/braze it onto a new one.

-I had to make a new mounting bracket. The compressor I used has the bolts running horizontally rather than vertically. This makes access to the rear bolts very difficult. I will be addressing this soon.

-If you are gassing it yourself with BBQ gas don't turn the cylinder upside down! Liquid destroys compressors! And don't forget the lubricant.

-This is not a five minute job. I have a cnc plasma machine and a mig and Tig welder. If you are just an average Joe it may be easier to track down a standard one and buy that. I only did it because shipping and exchange rate was going to kill me.

-Good luck!
I was watching your Tilton slave vid and then it carried on to the bit about the aircon, but I obviously wasn't paying attention. Isn't mixing up Holden and Ford some sort of capital offence?!

I didn't realise you'd gone to those lengths and thought from the bit I'd seen that the compressor had the same mountings etc. Clearly a bigger job than switching over a clutch and pulley!

mrniceguy351

131 posts

60 months

Tuesday 28th May
quotequote all
Sagi Badger said:
OK, BBQ gas?? Thought I knew it all, then I got married 35 years ago and since then realise I know nothing...nothing at all. Educate the Pom pls, WTF is BBQ gas.
I have an HSV VZ Maloo so I know how to BBQ.. LOL
BBQ gas is barbeque gas. AKA butane, propane, liquified petroleum gas. It works just fine as aircon gas.

mrniceguy351

131 posts

60 months

Tuesday 28th May
quotequote all
Basil Brush said:
I was watching your Tilton slave vid and then it carried on to the bit about the aircon, but I obviously wasn't paying attention. Isn't mixing up Holden and Ford some sort of capital offence?!

I didn't realise you'd gone to those lengths and thought from the bit I'd seen that the compressor had the same mountings etc. Clearly a bigger job than switching over a clutch and pulley!
Yes it is a capital offence to mix the cars up. Aircon compressors is just a misdemeanor.

As far as I can tell no two aircon compressors seem to have the same mount setup!

non_linear

Original Poster:

297 posts

90 months

Tuesday 11th June
quotequote all
mk1fan said:
Not great, but I noticed a couple of used ones from the usual breakers on the bay of evils.

I have a used spare but need to find someone to test / refurb it.
I found a new one on a Swiss auction site, but just missed buying it by 30 mins.
Nothing on the bay at the moment that I can see.

Might you be interested in selling your spare?


mk1fan

10,649 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th June
quotequote all
It was sold to me as working but has sat on the shelf in an Ikea storage box for a couple of years.

I paid £190 for it so if you're willing to leave me square then I'm happy to move it on. I will be heading to Lewes in the next few weeks so could meet up en-route.

Send me an email through my profile and I'll send you some pics.

non_linear

Original Poster:

297 posts

90 months

Wednesday 12th June
quotequote all
mk1fan said:
Send me an email through my profile and I'll send you some pics.
I'll drop you an email, thanks.

Stever

1,539 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th June
quotequote all
mrniceguy351 said:
BBQ gas is barbeque gas. AKA butane, propane, liquified petroleum gas. It works just fine as aircon gas.
I spoke to a mobile aircon guy on Saturday he was aghast to hear this. Highly flammable of course (yikes) great for your sausages but shouldn't be near an ICE

Zeb74

409 posts

136 months

Wednesday 19th June
quotequote all
Stever said:
mrniceguy351 said:
BBQ gas is barbeque gas. AKA butane, propane, liquified petroleum gas. It works just fine as aircon gas.
I spoke to a mobile aircon guy on Saturday he was aghast to hear this. Highly flammable of course (yikes) great for your sausages but shouldn't be near an ICE
I was reading this in my office, my colleagues asked me what was happening as my reaction was so audible.
This is maybe not a huge amount of gas in the system but with our cars already notorious for being on fire, it takes courage. I understand why Mad Max was filmed in Australia :-).