Heater Amp Input Signal

Heater Amp Input Signal

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subseamatt

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80 posts

74 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Afternoon all.
Can anyone tell me what the Pulse Width Modulation signal coming into the heater amplifier should look like? I still can't get my interior fans to run unless I short-out the wires at the hearer amp connector at which point it will happily run at full power.
My PWM signal from the dash ECU looks like the below traces (at typ 10%, 50% & 90% fan switch levels) but I don't know if it's meant to be going between 0V and 12V (not 7V as below)?






The heater amp and dash ECU have both been to Jody for checking and the plug is fine (tight, no melting etc) so I'm a bit stumped why I still can't get the fans to run.
Thanks! Matt

non_linear

297 posts

90 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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pin 3 on the connector goes to the input of the VNP35N switching device via a 47k resistor. It is used as a diagnostic pin. You can use that to see if the PWM signal is getting through. It should be inverted relative to the PWM signal from the control board.

subseamatt

Original Poster:

80 posts

74 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Interesting to know, thanks.
I don't seem to have any signal on pin 3 (difficult to measure when all connected up in the footwell, but pretty sure).
I noticed that the PWM input signal reads differently when the amp circuit is connected compared to the traces above which were taken when the heater amp wasn't connected.
The input trace with the amp circuit connected looks like this, alternating between +6.2V and +9.4V (this is for a low fan speed on the switch):


Don't know if that's what it is meant to look like or not?
Looks like I'm just going to have to give up and get one of the specialists to try a different amp circuit and see if that fixes it.
Huummmm....

non_linear

297 posts

90 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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The VNP35 will take pin 3 to ground if it has a overtemperature fault. Alternatively the input transistor could be fried.
Is the heatsink hot?
Those signal levels do not look right to me. Sorry I can't be more help.

MK_tamora

513 posts

290 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Have you got 12V (ignition switched) on pin 1 of the connector? Is the connector on the loom OK?

I'm in MK if you want to come over and borrow my amp.

Cheers

Nick

subseamatt

Original Poster:

80 posts

74 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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MK_tamora said:
Have you got 12V (ignition switched) on pin 1 of the connector? Is the connector on the loom OK?

I'm in MK if you want to come over and borrow my amp.

Cheers

Nick
Yes, I have correct ignition live and ground on those leads. The connector on the loom is fine too. It needs to go in to someone for MOT & service so I'll get them to have a look. Thanks for the offer though (I'm in High Wycombe so not too far).

MK_tamora

513 posts

290 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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I always take mine to Jason at Str8Six for service and MOT. Just up the road from you.