Door button flash 13 times after locking - anyone got ideas?
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So noticed yesterday when I locked the Sagaris that the door buttons flashed a number of times after I locked the car.
I can find no real problems, the doors/hatch lock and unlock fine, leaving the doors or the hatch open and trying to lock results in the usual chirp to warn you. No chirp if they are all closed. Dash warning messages for open doors with ignition on are working. The Windows all do their little up/down dance when opening and closing the doors. Everything seems perfectly normal except when I lock the car I get 13 flashes from the door button lights.
However the one thing I did notice is the central door locking button on dash next to the door/window buttons isn't working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWfn626PY0
I can find no real problems, the doors/hatch lock and unlock fine, leaving the doors or the hatch open and trying to lock results in the usual chirp to warn you. No chirp if they are all closed. Dash warning messages for open doors with ignition on are working. The Windows all do their little up/down dance when opening and closing the doors. Everything seems perfectly normal except when I lock the car I get 13 flashes from the door button lights.
However the one thing I did notice is the central door locking button on dash next to the door/window buttons isn't working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWfn626PY0
Mine has always flashed like that after locking. Just checked there now - 16 flashes after plipping the remote to lock.
It's not something that you may notice unless peering in at the time and it is a little dark.
As for the locking button not working, it stops the mirror buttons openingvthe doors from the outside, or at least, it should do. You ca test by rolling the window down and trying to unlock the door using the mirror button (after having pressed the locking button on the dash). I guess it is for use in dodgy areas where naerdowell may try to open your door and haul you out.
It's not something that you may notice unless peering in at the time and it is a little dark.
As for the locking button not working, it stops the mirror buttons openingvthe doors from the outside, or at least, it should do. You ca test by rolling the window down and trying to unlock the door using the mirror button (after having pressed the locking button on the dash). I guess it is for use in dodgy areas where naerdowell may try to open your door and haul you out.
GaryF said:
Mine has always flashed like that after locking. Just checked there now - 16 flashes after plipping the remote to lock.
It's not something that you may notice unless peering in at the time and it is a little dark.
As for the locking button not working, it stops the mirror buttons openingvthe doors from the outside, or at least, it should do. You ca test by rolling the window down and trying to unlock the door using the mirror button (after having pressed the locking button on the dash). I guess it is for use in dodgy areas where naerdowell may try to open your door and haul you out.
Thats an idea, don't know why I didn't think of trying that. I am right in thinking that the central locking button lights up green when the outside mirror buttons are disabled (my doesn't presently)It's not something that you may notice unless peering in at the time and it is a little dark.
As for the locking button not working, it stops the mirror buttons openingvthe doors from the outside, or at least, it should do. You ca test by rolling the window down and trying to unlock the door using the mirror button (after having pressed the locking button on the dash). I guess it is for use in dodgy areas where naerdowell may try to open your door and haul you out.
I swear mine has never done the 16 light flash before, have owned the car 5 years.
Have a feeling its more related to lack of use and something is 'sticking' somewhere. Hardly used it this year because of C19
Mine definitely does the 16 flashes thing. As for the led by the central locking button, I thought it lit up red. You'd think after almost 15 years I'd remember, but I've probably only ever pressed it a few times in all that time 
Will check led colour / if it stays on when back on Sun.
Will check led colour / if it stays on when back on Sun.
Well tried the button as suggested - and it works perfect. With the ignition on, windows down - if I lean through the window and press the central button it disables the mirror buttons (button doesn't light though)
So everything appears to be working! (thanks GaryF - let me know how your button light test goes) You would think I would have noticed the 16 flashes in 5 years of ownership. The car is kept in a Carcoon Veloce in a garage so when I lock the car I am usually behind the car zipping up the entrance cover with a good view of the central console
So everything appears to be working! (thanks GaryF - let me know how your button light test goes) You would think I would have noticed the 16 flashes in 5 years of ownership. The car is kept in a Carcoon Veloce in a garage so when I lock the car I am usually behind the car zipping up the entrance cover with a good view of the central console
Hi OP,
Managed to get back to the car and check out the LED behaviour - you have nothing to worry about... My car behaves exactly the same as yours in that when you press the central locking button on the console (to disable the exterior mirror buttons so they cannot open the doors) the only flash is a single flash from both interior door opening buttons. The LED beside the central locking button has nothing to do with that button's function and does not illuminate when you press the central locking button. The LED is instead just to show that the immobiliser is on and it flashes red when that is the case.
And as already noted earlier, I also get the 16 flashes of the door buttons when locking/arming the alarm.
So no problemo
Managed to get back to the car and check out the LED behaviour - you have nothing to worry about... My car behaves exactly the same as yours in that when you press the central locking button on the console (to disable the exterior mirror buttons so they cannot open the doors) the only flash is a single flash from both interior door opening buttons. The LED beside the central locking button has nothing to do with that button's function and does not illuminate when you press the central locking button. The LED is instead just to show that the immobiliser is on and it flashes red when that is the case.
And as already noted earlier, I also get the 16 flashes of the door buttons when locking/arming the alarm.
So no problemo
GaryF said:
Hi OP,
Managed to get back to the car and check out the LED behaviour - you have nothing to worry about... My car behaves exactly the same as yours in that when you press the central locking button on the console (to disable the exterior mirror buttons so they cannot open the doors) the only flash is a single flash from both interior door opening buttons. The LED beside the central locking button has nothing to do with that button's function and does not illuminate when you press the central locking button. The LED is instead just to show that the immobiliser is on and it flashes red when that is the case.
And as already noted earlier, I also get the 16 flashes of the door buttons when locking/arming the alarm.
So no problemo
Super thank you!!!!!Managed to get back to the car and check out the LED behaviour - you have nothing to worry about... My car behaves exactly the same as yours in that when you press the central locking button on the console (to disable the exterior mirror buttons so they cannot open the doors) the only flash is a single flash from both interior door opening buttons. The LED beside the central locking button has nothing to do with that button's function and does not illuminate when you press the central locking button. The LED is instead just to show that the immobiliser is on and it flashes red when that is the case.
And as already noted earlier, I also get the 16 flashes of the door buttons when locking/arming the alarm.
So no problemo
Just to clarify one thing though. I know the red led next to the button is for the alarm/immobiliser but does the button itself light up green or red. It looks like it has a translucent plastic surround like the door/window buttons which obviously light up green when the headlights are on etc. Was just wondering does the central locking button light up when the doors are locked - I swear it did but might be my memory playing games
Central locking button does not flash, or stay illuminated. Just single flash from the door opening buttons when it is pressed for the first time (notong thereafter).
The central locking button (as well as the mirror door buttons) does also stop the boot button operating, as I found out this evening whilst trying to extract some tomatoes...
The central locking button (as well as the mirror door buttons) does also stop the boot button operating, as I found out this evening whilst trying to extract some tomatoes...
GaryF said:
Central locking button does not flash, or stay illuminated. Just single flash from the door opening buttons when it is pressed for the first time (notong thereafter).
The central locking button (as well as the mirror door buttons) does also stop the boot button operating, as I found out this evening whilst trying to extract some tomatoes...
Well there ya go - my mind was playing tricks!.Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.The central locking button (as well as the mirror door buttons) does also stop the boot button operating, as I found out this evening whilst trying to extract some tomatoes...
Weather looks fabulous Monday and a day off work so I will be doing the best to mortally embarrass my teenage daughter by doing the school run in the Sagaris and making lots of decat'd Speed 6 noise goodness outside the headmasters office
As noted above I would think the 16 flashes are illuminating the time period for the alarm to settle and become active maybe interior sensors? My Griff has a light that flashes rapidly when first locked then after a while it settles to a slower flash.
Maybe sit in it, lock it and wave your arms around and see if the alarm going off corresponds to the end of the 16 flashes?
Maybe sit in it, lock it and wave your arms around and see if the alarm going off corresponds to the end of the 16 flashes?
The only other possibility, and it is only a vague possibility, is that it is warning you of an issue with the sensor in the boot or bonnet latch.
When I first had my Chimaera it used to give me 4 flashes of the indicators when I locked it.
I just thought that was normal, until someone said it wasn't.
My TVR specialist knew what it was and adjusted the bonnet catch.
I now get one flash (ooh Matron) when I unlock and 2 when I lock the car.
When I first had my Chimaera it used to give me 4 flashes of the indicators when I locked it.
I just thought that was normal, until someone said it wasn't.
My TVR specialist knew what it was and adjusted the bonnet catch.
I now get one flash (ooh Matron) when I unlock and 2 when I lock the car.
QBee said:
The only other possibility, and it is only a vague possibility, is that it is warning you of an issue with the sensor in the boot or bonnet latch.
When I first had my Chimaera it used to give me 4 flashes of the indicators when I locked it.
I just thought that was normal, until someone said it wasn't.
My TVR specialist knew what it was and adjusted the bonnet catch.
I now get one flash (ooh Matron) when I unlock and 2 when I lock the car.
This. When I first had my Chimaera it used to give me 4 flashes of the indicators when I locked it.
I just thought that was normal, until someone said it wasn't.
My TVR specialist knew what it was and adjusted the bonnet catch.
I now get one flash (ooh Matron) when I unlock and 2 when I lock the car.
Defo activate the alarm to test the siren is earthed well.
I think if there is any sensor failure or adjustment needed like say on the bonnet catch or a bad earth to siren etc ( on Chims the siren is in the nose and subject to a lot of weather effects )
It can send you codes via how many flashes you are receiving.
This is true of the Meta alarm fitted to my 2000 year Chim. Contact Abacus Alarms as the chap loves the things, likes the Meta system and will send or tell you what these flashes represent. A very friendly and helpful chap, he will tell you if this is applicable on your Alarm system.
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