Tamora or Cerb
Discussion
Currently run a Cerb S6 as my everyday car (~12,000 miles a year). While it's a great car it's coming up to 3 years old and I have an aversion to MOT's so am starting to think about the next car.
Cerb 4.5 appeals because it's there but I'd have to buy second hand again. Alternative is a new Tamora. On paper it should be at least as quick as what I have now and being the latest thing should have benefited from further development.
I'm also thinking that the Tamora is going to be an easier car to live with day to day.
Anyone else moved from Cerb to Tamora and got any insight in to the pros/cons ??
N.B. buying a cheap second car for day to day use isn't an option as the Cerb just won't get the use (based on experience with bikes rotting in the garage through lack of use).
Cerb 4.5 appeals because it's there but I'd have to buy second hand again. Alternative is a new Tamora. On paper it should be at least as quick as what I have now and being the latest thing should have benefited from further development.
I'm also thinking that the Tamora is going to be an easier car to live with day to day.
Anyone else moved from Cerb to Tamora and got any insight in to the pros/cons ??
N.B. buying a cheap second car for day to day use isn't an option as the Cerb just won't get the use (based on experience with bikes rotting in the garage through lack of use).
Can't really comment on the Cerbera as I've never driven one but I do use my Tamora everyday.
As your Cerbera also has the Speed6 engine the main differences I can see are that the Tamora's shorter so more nimble and the roof comes off!
Get yourself a test drive as that will probably make your mind up for you!
tvrinbfg, I was at Bedford on Tuesday and you're right the Tamora was incredible on the track!
Cheers..... Andrew
As your Cerbera also has the Speed6 engine the main differences I can see are that the Tamora's shorter so more nimble and the roof comes off!
Get yourself a test drive as that will probably make your mind up for you!
tvrinbfg, I was at Bedford on Tuesday and you're right the Tamora was incredible on the track!
Cheers..... Andrew
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Looking at the piccy of your cerb on your profile, it has rusty discs! Get out there and drive
Have no doubt it gets driven
Drilled rotors on the Tamora would also be a plus as I've not heard of any judder/warping problems yet (unlike the Cerb which is just going back for it's 3rd set
) Will get a test drive organised but I'm still adjusting to the idea of moving away from the Cerb. Then I'll have to convince the missus who isn't a huge fan of the Tamora's styling.
As this will be used all year around, how does the roof material stand up to winter use ?? Does it need any special cleaning ??
quote:The driver is far more important in this case to draw any conclusions. Doesn't the tamora use the old ford brakes, or does it have the same 4-pot 330mm AP front brakes as the Cerbera/Red Rose Tuscan?
Tamora is an easier car to live with and faster than a Cerbera Speed Six, and if, what I saw at Bedford Autodrome on Tuesday, faster than a Cerbera 4.5. Plus the roof comes off!
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quote:The driver is far more important in this case to draw any conclusions. Doesn't the tamora use the old ford brakes, or does it have the same 4-pot 330mm AP front brakes as the Cerbera/Red Rose Tuscan?
Tamora is an easier car to live with and faster than a Cerbera Speed Six, and if, what I saw at Bedford Autodrome on Tuesday, faster than a Cerbera 4.5. Plus the roof comes off!
Tamora has same drilled AP brakes as base Tuscan - they are as good as my 4.5 Cerbera's were.
Not surpised that the Tamora appears to be a faster track day car. Just take one for a test drive back to back with any other TVR model ( excl Tuscan R of course ) and you will realise why. Doing this convinced me to got for one above another Cerbera or a Tuscan S.
Mark
Hi Danny,
Re "The driver is far more important in this case to draw any conclusions", I would agree with you to a certain extent, but Bedford is a power track with loads of run off area, no blind corners and so you can really go for it.
All the Tamoras seemed fast that day, and looked (and when I was driving mine felt) to put the power down better and be more stable through the corners. Thats why I said they "appeared faster".
I am currently running a Tamora and a Cerbera 4.5 as day to day cars. I think the Tamora is the best alround car TVR make. Although if in "high street cruise mode", I prefer the Cerbera (noiser and more presence).
Regards
Re "The driver is far more important in this case to draw any conclusions", I would agree with you to a certain extent, but Bedford is a power track with loads of run off area, no blind corners and so you can really go for it.
All the Tamoras seemed fast that day, and looked (and when I was driving mine felt) to put the power down better and be more stable through the corners. Thats why I said they "appeared faster".
I am currently running a Tamora and a Cerbera 4.5 as day to day cars. I think the Tamora is the best alround car TVR make. Although if in "high street cruise mode", I prefer the Cerbera (noiser and more presence).
Regards
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Well, I went from a Cerb (which I loved) to a Tamora. The Tamora is much easier to live with every day although I still love the way the Cerb looks.
As for performance, the way the Tamora handles makes up for the Cerbs better straight line speed and over normal roads and definitley on the track the Tamora is a fair bit quicker.
and.......the roof comes off which I really missed in the Cerbera.
Get the right colur and you won't regret it.
As for performance, the way the Tamora handles makes up for the Cerbs better straight line speed and over normal roads and definitley on the track the Tamora is a fair bit quicker.
and.......the roof comes off which I really missed in the Cerbera.
Get the right colur and you won't regret it.
quote:Huh? The fact that there are no blind corners and no run off doesn't make the average occasional track day driver into a brilliant track day driver! There is far more to it than being worried about falling off the track. A decent driver in a Chimaera 4.0 would probably thrash me in my Cerbera...
Hi Danny,
Re "The driver is far more important in this case to draw any conclusions", I would agree with you to a certain extent, but Bedford is a power track with loads of run off area, no blind corners and so you can really go for it.
Danny
lets not have a "who's quickest" debate here. I can tell you for real after driving all my TVR's (Griff, Cerb and Tamora) round the track that the Tamora is in a totally different league to any other TVR currently built. With just one exception...the Tuscan S which has an identical set up to the Tamora on it's suspension.
At Donnington last week I absolutley destroyed a Griffith 500 ( with modified Cerb AP racing brakes too)and beleive me I am not a particularly experienced or exceptional track day driver...the guy was even more gobsmacked when I took him for a spin...
I also took PaulC (who owns a Porsche 911 RS) round for a spin. He is the best driver I have ever been in a car with, and to cap it all he used to own a Cerbera 4.5. SO I was looking forward to hearing his opinion.
He was astonished by the handling and grip the Tamora gives without it ever feeling nervous through the corners. The brakes are nowhere near as good as his Porsche but they are still miles better than any other of my TVR's and to my knowledge they are the same as the Tuscan red rose brakes which are nothing whatsoever to do with Ford.
All I can say is go and drive one and you will realise why I didn't buy another Cerb, even though I loved my old one.
lets not have a "who's quickest" debate here. I can tell you for real after driving all my TVR's (Griff, Cerb and Tamora) round the track that the Tamora is in a totally different league to any other TVR currently built. With just one exception...the Tuscan S which has an identical set up to the Tamora on it's suspension.
At Donnington last week I absolutley destroyed a Griffith 500 ( with modified Cerb AP racing brakes too)and beleive me I am not a particularly experienced or exceptional track day driver...the guy was even more gobsmacked when I took him for a spin...
I also took PaulC (who owns a Porsche 911 RS) round for a spin. He is the best driver I have ever been in a car with, and to cap it all he used to own a Cerbera 4.5. SO I was looking forward to hearing his opinion.
He was astonished by the handling and grip the Tamora gives without it ever feeling nervous through the corners. The brakes are nowhere near as good as his Porsche but they are still miles better than any other of my TVR's and to my knowledge they are the same as the Tuscan red rose brakes which are nothing whatsoever to do with Ford.
All I can say is go and drive one and you will realise why I didn't buy another Cerb, even though I loved my old one.
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er,,, buy a Tuscan Sfaster, better looking and the roof comes off.... :-)
Not a fan of the Tuscan, dash is all a bit nautical for my liking and a Tuscan S is more dosh than a Cerb 4.5 so outside the capabilities of my wallet.
Roof coming off isn't of great interest (I was one of those wierdo's driving around in June with the hardtop on my last convertible), I've got greater interest in acceleration and handling.
Also notice that the Tuscan owners appear to be less chatty/enthusiastic (looking at the activity on the Cerb and Tamora forums), suspect there's more concern over form than function....not than you can own any TVR without a sizeable dose of vanity.
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