Sorry to say, but..she had to go.!
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After only 3 weeks have had to sell the car back to dealer.
The straw was persistent failure of the power steering
which was switching on and off whilst driving.
I had taken the car back to dealer in Sussex(120 mile return trip) 4 times in 2 weeks, (speedo, oil pressure and twice power steering).
I could have lived with infinite trips for niggles like speedo or sensors but NOT steering.
There are 2 things you don't take a chance with, Brakes and Steering, especially in a high power to weight sports car..!
They had changed the electric pump which seemed to solve the problem, but I was not prepared to take a long term chance and was going to get back as close as possible my original money if sold quickly.
I love the car which is one of the buzziest ever driven, but other TVR's I've owned have always been weekend cars, this was my daily.
One thing I won't be doing in future is slagging off TVR's in general.
Apparently the build car before mine sold by same dealer has been perfect..!
Good luck to you all, and I will be staying in the forums.
Rob Payne
The straw was persistent failure of the power steering
which was switching on and off whilst driving.
I had taken the car back to dealer in Sussex(120 mile return trip) 4 times in 2 weeks, (speedo, oil pressure and twice power steering).
I could have lived with infinite trips for niggles like speedo or sensors but NOT steering.
There are 2 things you don't take a chance with, Brakes and Steering, especially in a high power to weight sports car..!
They had changed the electric pump which seemed to solve the problem, but I was not prepared to take a long term chance and was going to get back as close as possible my original money if sold quickly.
I love the car which is one of the buzziest ever driven, but other TVR's I've owned have always been weekend cars, this was my daily.
One thing I won't be doing in future is slagging off TVR's in general.
Apparently the build car before mine sold by same dealer has been perfect..!
Good luck to you all, and I will be staying in the forums.
Rob Payne
rep900 said:
mr fq400
Want daily, reliable, but good on track.
Have heard these are quick.! ?
F Quick but very F expensive! Buy this and save £31k!
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?s=231&i=32853&sc=20D8
Seems a slight over reaction wasn't it?
Couple of sensors go tits up (which is the TVR norm), and then you get unassisted steering for a while.... which they fix... and so you sell the car.
Yup! You better buy a sushi sledge.
It'll be reliable, anonomous, like a playstaion to drive.... and coyote ugly!
Best of luck.
Couple of sensors go tits up (which is the TVR norm), and then you get unassisted steering for a while.... which they fix... and so you sell the car.
Yup! You better buy a sushi sledge.
It'll be reliable, anonomous, like a playstaion to drive.... and coyote ugly!
Best of luck.
blueyes said:
Seems a slight over reaction wasn't it?
Couple of sensors go tits up (which is the TVR norm), and then you get unassisted steering for a while.... which they fix... and so you sell the car.
Yeah but the "unassisted steering" came and went while driving..!!
I mean driving out of tight bend and steering goes is gonna liven you up..
Senna lost his steering going round a bend, look what happened to him..
Thing is with steering, that even though they seemed to solve problem, it's in the back of your mind on every bend, which is ok normal driving but not if giving it some..
Then what's the point in having sports car if you can't drive it fast..?
900T-R said:
There's a slight differentiation between 'no steering'and 'no steering assistance however...
But that is the point.. my griff of old had no power steering, no problem, you get used to it constantly.
But to lose or potentially lose mid corner is interesting to say the least..
I mean it may say sound flippant to sell so easily, but I lost 6k in 18 days.. work it out.!
I had no finance so I can buy something else no problem.
But there are a lot of people buying these cars with major finance who would be upset(understatement) about such a situation.
Also the other "niggles" mentioned and not mentioned( 3 times couldn't open drivers door, atrocious wind noise above 60mph, seat belt nightmare to undo, major squeaking passenger seat)..I considered normal TVR stuff..!
rep900 said:
There's a slight differentiation between 'no steering'and 'no steering assistance however...
But that is the point.. my griff of old had no power steering, no problem, you get used to it constantly.
But to lose or potentially lose mid corner is interesting to say the least..
I mean it may say sound flippant to sell so easily, but I lost 6k in 18 days.. work it out.!
I had no finance so I can buy something else no problem.
But there are a lot of people buying these cars with major finance who would be upset(understatement) about such a situation.
Also the other "niggles" mentioned and not mentioned( 3 times couldn't open drivers door, atrocious wind noise above 60mph, seat belt nightmare to undo, major squeaking passenger seat)..I considered normal TVR stuff..!
Good luck with the EVO and check back in to tell us what it's like to live with!
With regards to the wind noise, I assume you mean from the Targa panels? Mine was like this, but with careful adjustment they are quiet up to 120mph. I put a washer under one of the front fasteners to make it tighter and generally fiddled. Trouble is, it takes an age to refit them 100% right - I wish TVR would do something about the seal.
1.The Senna thing doesn't really count. His steering column snapped. What was happening to you was a "loading up" of the steering caused by the electrical pump failing. Not nice but they fixed it didn't they? Had the P/S go on a Merc. They fixed it but I kept the car.
2.The other little problems are a TVR thing: First 6 months are a pain until the niggles are sorted then it should be fine. Had this with all my TVRs, I'm not saying that it's right, just that having experienced a TVR you should have expected this.
3.The depreciation you suffered would be the same for any car. Sign the cheque and lose 17.5% The dealer must have thought it was Christmas.
If you'd persevered your 6 months would be up just in time for a glorious Summer, hooning around, maybe in Europe, lids off, attracting admiring glances, and making great noises in a very attractive car.
I genuinely hope you don't regret your decision.
2.The other little problems are a TVR thing: First 6 months are a pain until the niggles are sorted then it should be fine. Had this with all my TVRs, I'm not saying that it's right, just that having experienced a TVR you should have expected this.
3.The depreciation you suffered would be the same for any car. Sign the cheque and lose 17.5% The dealer must have thought it was Christmas.
If you'd persevered your 6 months would be up just in time for a glorious Summer, hooning around, maybe in Europe, lids off, attracting admiring glances, and making great noises in a very attractive car.
I genuinely hope you don't regret your decision.
blueyes said:
3.The depreciation you suffered would be the same for any car. Sign the cheque and lose 17.5% The dealer must have thought it was Christmas.
Did you try suggesting to dealer that they should have taken car back under Sale of Goods Act as being of unsatisfactory quality? Think I would have argued a bit before giving up all that money!
blueyes said:
1.The Senna thing doesn't really count. His steering column snapped.
You really should be very careful saying things like that on a public forum, there is no proof the steering column snapped pre-impact.
Back on topic, I'd have camped outside the dealer with a large banner detailing my woes until I got a full refund.
blueyes said:
What was happening to you was a "loading up" of the steering caused by the electrical pump failing. Not nice but they fixed it didn't they?
The other little problems are a TVR thing: First 6 months are a pain until the niggles are sorted then it should be fine.
I genuinely hope you don't regret your decision.
Fair enough.. and I would still recommend the car, but NOT as a daily driver.
My Cerbera and Griff were always in the garage and ready to play, but if there was a problem, I had something else to go to work in.
The power steering pump was electrical and could always get wet and go again, it's mild Nov didn't want to wait till -2C Jan.
I might have been naive in hindsight buying the car as a daily, but TVR and this is the POINT are supposed to be IMPROVING build quality.
I'm not complaining about 6k loss, that's my problem.
tuscanraider said:
rob what are you looking at next. the subaru wr1 is nice for the winter with good resid'
Have actually just this minute ordered mr fq 340(gunmetal grey) see above..thought fq 400 excessive and expensive.. Autocar placed it(340) 5th best drivers car(road and track) above GT3RS and CSL.. If I had lottery win would have Gallardo..!
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