Tamora roof lifts off at high speed

Tamora roof lifts off at high speed

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mallettp

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11 posts

240 months

Monday 11th October 2004
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Just taken my first long drive in my 2002 Tamora. The n/s/f corner of the roof lifts up at high speed. Anyone else get this? Any solutions? apart from driving slowly.
Paul.

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

264 months

Monday 11th October 2004
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Mine flew off at 110mph, shattered my side window. I got hot will glass, luckly in the arm. the glass damaged the side of the door and the whole car was covered in glass...

Check the rear stays for movement, and try and lift the rood when it is one (not moveing of course)

The only cure I had was get rid of the car, but that was the extreme option.

On a lighter note, check the stays for movement etc, im sure it will be fine. Also check the pressure of the window to the roof pannel, as I recon this was tight on mine, which, when the window shattered, the rush of air into the cabin, forced the roof off. Have a look at my previous posts to see the whole story

Mr F

nubbin

6,809 posts

284 months

Monday 11th October 2004
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I had this problem with my first Tamora, and got a bit worried in the run up to Eurohoon that it might happen on an autobahn - so I installed two catches on the leading edge of the roof - I bought two over-centre S2 roof latches from Leven, and found a website that supplies catch plates. Total cost was about £50. I screwed the catches to the roof panel, and drilled through the fibreglass part of the windscreen surround and bolted the catches in place. They worked - well the roof (when it was on ) stayed in place, and I went up to 150mph on an autobahn with the windows down - I only slowed because my wheels were out of balance and nearly shook my teeth out!

I'll post up some photos if you like.

fly boy

1,282 posts

247 months

Monday 11th October 2004
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nubbin said:
so I installed two catches on the leading edge of the roof -
I'll post up some photos if you like.

please Nubbin

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

252 months

Monday 11th October 2004
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Sounds a great idea nubbin! I would love to see pictures!

nubbin

6,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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Here you go!



Sorry they're a bit blurred but I'm crap at photography!


>> Edited by nubbin on Tuesday 12th October 22:44

Rods

1,798 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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They look pretty good Duncan,they would of been pretty useful on the Targa panels on the 350 aswell.

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

252 months

Tuesday 12th October 2004
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Very impressive! me thinks I would do this if I thought I was clever enough!

AlexRWD

1,254 posts

243 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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maddog-uk said:
Very impressive! me thinks I would do this if I thought I was clever enough!


Agreed - maybe we need to do a group buy and fitting session.

nubbin - as the latches are on the leading edge, do you now put your roof in boot the wrong way round, and does that work ok? I have enough difficulty getting it in the right way round!

Marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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nubbin said:
Here you go!



Sorry they're a bit blurred but I'm crap at photography!


>> Edited by nubbin on Tuesday 12th October 22:44


No offence nubbin but you pay what 40k for a car and then have to perform this kind of work just to make it safe .

nubbin

6,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Marki said:

No offence nubbin but you pay what 40k for a car and then have to perform this kind of work just to make it safe .


None taken, Marki, and likewise no offence intended in my saying, same song, differnt verse!

What I mean is, the principle behind your comment is absolutely correct, but we all know this is TVR, and it's another head vs. heart moment. I'm not one of these people who can aford to chop and change my play car every year, so I'm enjoying the Tamora for what it is, and living with the poor quality control is just the downside of the excitement and fun of a nutty and unique car company's less than perfect product.

At least I'm not paying £3k or whatever, to have the cambelt changed on my Ferrari - who's brilliant engineering design came up with the idea of having to take the engine out to change the belts? And the clutch?

Personally I would much rather have a conventional folding soft top, with clips on the windscreen suround - maybe Nikolai will go down that route?

Many non-mainstream cars have silly design flaws, but most live with them and don't complain. But this is TVR, so we DO complain, and very loudly and repeatedly. but there never was any use in complaining to Peter Wheeler, who wasn't interested in customer care - he just wanted to play with his big toy called TVR.

nubbin

6,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Rods said:
They look pretty good Duncan,they would of been pretty useful on the Targa panels on the 350 aswell.


Hi Rob!! How's the new car? I'm looking forward to seeing you at BTaP - we can all tell you how much fun you missed on Eurohoon!

You'd better be going next year!

nubbin

6,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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AlexRWD said:

Agreed - maybe we need to do a group buy and fitting session.

nubbin - as the latches are on the leading edge, do you now put your roof in boot the wrong way round, and does that work ok? I have enough difficulty getting it in the right way round!


Alex, it really isn't very difficult. If I were to do it again, I would probably cut the roof lining, as it wasn't stuck down on mine, and drill two small pilot holes for the screws, fill them with Araldite Rapid, and also coat the area on the roof where the foot of the latch fits, to glue-and-screw the latch more securely to the carbon fibre. I suppose, as well, with a bit of fiddling, that the catch plate could be tucked under the lining of the screen surround - it would be fiddly, but possible.

The latches don't affect getting the panel into the boot at all, plus having them on the panel means they don't rattle about when the roof is off.

Marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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nubbin said:

At least I'm not paying £3k or whatever, to have the cambelt changed on my Ferrari - who's brilliant engineering design came up with the idea of having to take the engine out to change the belts? And the clutch?


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Very good point , this example seems ridiculous to me as well

Marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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nubbin said:



None taken, Marki, and likewise no offence intended in my saying, same song, differnt verse!




jayjay

469 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Maybe they have changed something on the later cars as my roof is solid. I have tried to move it when it's in position and it's impossible.

AlexRWD

1,254 posts

243 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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nubbin said:

Personally I would much rather have a conventional folding soft top, with clips on the windscreen suround - maybe Nikolai will go down that route?


Certainly agree with that - it really annoys me that the TVR website blurb on the Tamora refers to:

"the roof mechanism being the acclaimed stowable hard-top design from the Griffith and Chimaera"

- acclaimed by who, and for what? who are they trying to kid.

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

252 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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The only thing I do like is its like owning two cars in one. Personally give me a conventional fold down roof any day of the week as its tiresome putting it up and down! Perhaps we could get a retrodesign done!!

>> Edited by maddog-uk on Wednesday 13th October 11:33

jayjay

469 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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And then sell the design to TVR.

mallettp

Original Poster:

11 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Thanks for all the input guys (are there never any girls?). TVR Centre have offered to raise the stays slightly which they say often does the trick. Feel almost ashamed to have rung them, now seems almost morally defective not to have created my own solution using a coathanger and some old eggboxes.