Are Nitrons worth it on a Tam/T350?
Discussion
As these cars seem set up for a 'sporty' ride anyway, what would the benefits be to changing the suspension for Nitrons if trackdays are not top of the agenda, is the ride more complient?
The reason I ask is that I have devised a little list of things to do with my Tam, am just about to book it for early next year to have the front re sprayed, including the 'black trim' on the bonnet at Ewelmes, almost ready to buy a sports exhaust, and the ultimate for next year (If I decide to make extra ££s from doing a private commission) is to either have the blue printed engine or 3.6-4 litre upgrade,,, I just wondered if spending the best part of 1K on suspension would be superfluous on a Tam.
I must ask TVR Power if they can do a 3.6RR, like Maddogs, 375BHP sounds perfect
Chris
The reason I ask is that I have devised a little list of things to do with my Tam, am just about to book it for early next year to have the front re sprayed, including the 'black trim' on the bonnet at Ewelmes, almost ready to buy a sports exhaust, and the ultimate for next year (If I decide to make extra ££s from doing a private commission) is to either have the blue printed engine or 3.6-4 litre upgrade,,, I just wondered if spending the best part of 1K on suspension would be superfluous on a Tam.
I must ask TVR Power if they can do a 3.6RR, like Maddogs, 375BHP sounds perfect
Chris
The best thing about Nitrons is that they are adjustable - ride height, and rebound/damping. Also they are rebuildable.
You can have them set up fairly soft for road use....and then harder for track.
Nitrons + geo check will transform the handling of the car...maybe book a day after with Andy Walsh on the North Weald airfield and he will assist in setting them up for you www.carlimits.com
You can have them set up fairly soft for road use....and then harder for track.
Nitrons + geo check will transform the handling of the car...maybe book a day after with Andy Walsh on the North Weald airfield and he will assist in setting them up for you www.carlimits.com
Chris,
If not for track day use, I suspect that Nitrons will be of no benefit. TVR spend a lot of time and money ensuring the best all round suspension set-up at an affordable price.
Many people have stated that Nitrons have transformed their car, and I'm sure they will if the original suspension was knackered, or they get the benefit of adjustment for track days.
Everday use - stick with what TVR provided, if its servicable, its an excellent all round package.
>> Edited by daftlad on Saturday 4th September 11:47
If not for track day use, I suspect that Nitrons will be of no benefit. TVR spend a lot of time and money ensuring the best all round suspension set-up at an affordable price.
Many people have stated that Nitrons have transformed their car, and I'm sure they will if the original suspension was knackered, or they get the benefit of adjustment for track days.
Everday use - stick with what TVR provided, if its servicable, its an excellent all round package.
>> Edited by daftlad on Saturday 4th September 11:47
Not so .. Neill Anderson is a very gifted bloke, super clever and generally all round nice guy, but even he has to work to a compromise.
Any road car like the TVR has to fulfill a set of criteria .. but this leads to compromises if it's gonna be a used in a wide variety of circumstances ..
one such compromise for example is at the back of the car. it has to be stiff enough to cope with a driver, passenger and luggage and full fuel tank .. what this means is that when you're one up with half tank of fuel it's too stiff in real terms .. ride quality and rear grip suffer.
if it's non adjustable you're stuck with the factory compromise, and good though that is it's still someone else's compromise.
what adjustable suspension allows you to do is shift the compromise further to what *you* require.
you can run the car soft at the rear most of the time for good traction and ride, and stiffen/raise it up for the two or three times a year you need the extra carrying ability ..
The current TVR suspension is light years ahead of the older stuff, but it's still what someone else wants on your car, and that may or may not be what you really need!
For std non adjustable and non rebuildable suspension the TVR stuf is also incredibly poor value for money, it's Nitron costs for no gain.
Last thing to note is engine power is by far the *worst* way to make your car go faster .. performance driving tuition, tyres, suspension and weight saving are all much much much better ways to go .. driver training being the first thing you should go for of course.
hth.
joo
Any road car like the TVR has to fulfill a set of criteria .. but this leads to compromises if it's gonna be a used in a wide variety of circumstances ..
one such compromise for example is at the back of the car. it has to be stiff enough to cope with a driver, passenger and luggage and full fuel tank .. what this means is that when you're one up with half tank of fuel it's too stiff in real terms .. ride quality and rear grip suffer.
if it's non adjustable you're stuck with the factory compromise, and good though that is it's still someone else's compromise.
what adjustable suspension allows you to do is shift the compromise further to what *you* require.
you can run the car soft at the rear most of the time for good traction and ride, and stiffen/raise it up for the two or three times a year you need the extra carrying ability ..
The current TVR suspension is light years ahead of the older stuff, but it's still what someone else wants on your car, and that may or may not be what you really need!
For std non adjustable and non rebuildable suspension the TVR stuf is also incredibly poor value for money, it's Nitron costs for no gain.
Last thing to note is engine power is by far the *worst* way to make your car go faster .. performance driving tuition, tyres, suspension and weight saving are all much much much better ways to go .. driver training being the first thing you should go for of course.
hth.
joo
joospeed said:
Last thing to note is engine power is by far the *worst* way to make your car go faster .. performance driving tuition, tyres, suspension and weight saving are all much much much better ways to go .. driver training being the first thing you should go for of course.
I agree with this statement to a point, but what if your looking for outright grunt eg for motorway (continental driving), weight saving can sometimes be as costly option as getting more bhp or unless you start stripping the interior of your car out.
Thank you for the very thorough answers , I think, after what's been written that Nitons would be wasted on my Tam, (had a track day booked for today, but bottled out just in case I damaged my car!! what a wuss!)
I understand what you mean Jools regarding the extra engine power, I guess the reason is that I would just like TVR Power to 'breath' on the engine, and I will probably plump for a 3.6 blueprint.
I know my front wheels are slightly misaligned (another reason I didnt go to the trackday), as I have excessive wear on the nearside tyre, on the inner part, very difficult to see! Will this be resolved with re tracking the wheels, or will it need a jig to re align them?
Thanks
Chris
, I think, after what's been written that Nitons would be wasted on my Tam, (had a track day booked for today, but bottled out just in case I damaged my car!! what a wuss!) I understand what you mean Jools regarding the extra engine power, I guess the reason is that I would just like TVR Power to 'breath' on the engine, and I will probably plump for a 3.6 blueprint.
I know my front wheels are slightly misaligned (another reason I didnt go to the trackday), as I have excessive wear on the nearside tyre, on the inner part, very difficult to see! Will this be resolved with re tracking the wheels, or will it need a jig to re align them?
Thanks
Chris
joospeed said:
Not so .. Neill Anderson is a very gifted bloke, super clever and generally all round nice guy, but even he has to work to a compromise.
Any road car like the TVR has to fulfill a set of criteria .. but this leads to compromises if it's gonna be a used in a wide variety of circumstances ..
one such compromise for example is at the back of the car. it has to be stiff enough to cope with a driver, passenger and luggage and full fuel tank .. what this means is that when you're one up with half tank of fuel it's too stiff in real terms .. ride quality and rear grip suffer.
if it's non adjustable you're stuck with the factory compromise, and good though that is it's still someone else's compromise.
what adjustable suspension allows you to do is shift the compromise further to what *you* require.
you can run the car soft at the rear most of the time for good traction and ride, and stiffen/raise it up for the two or three times a year you need the extra carrying ability ..
The current TVR suspension is light years ahead of the older stuff, but it's still what someone else wants on your car, and that may or may not be what you really need!
For std non adjustable and non rebuildable suspension the TVR stuf is also incredibly poor value for money, it's Nitron costs for no gain.
Last thing to note is engine power is by far the *worst* way to make your car go faster .. performance driving tuition, tyres, suspension and weight saving are all much much much better ways to go .. driver training being the first thing you should go for of course.
hth.
joo
Joolz
Not everyone has the ability or desire to play with suspension without looking at the other aspects of the geometery. For sure the standard package is a comprimise, but it was designed for that car, and it is a very good one.
I know you sell more Nitrons than anyone else, but the benefits aren't there for everyone.
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