Tickover

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InsBro

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79 posts

249 months

Wednesday 9th June 2004
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What RPM does everyones car tick over at?

Does it vary on cold days to hot days or dependent on what temperature its at?

Jeremy

dicky

928 posts

290 months

Wednesday 9th June 2004
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mine is about 800 to 850 when warm and jumps a wee bit when cold

hobo

5,838 posts

252 months

Wednesday 9th June 2004
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Mine's at 600-650 at present, and needs looking at as it sometimes stalls when cold.

Due its first service soon, so hanging on.

neil.b

6,546 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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Mine is back to 850 after I adjusted it. Its quite common for the tick over to drift out (mine always works its way down to 550-600 after a while). The adjustment is pretty easy - you just need a 8mm spanner and an allen key (3 or 4 mm, can't remember). Its easier if you have another person to sit in the car.

hobo

5,838 posts

252 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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NeilB,

I spoke to dealership out this & they said it was not something I could do myself. They told me I needed to take car to a dealership, they would plug in a laptop & sort it out this way.

Would be interested to know how to do it myself.

alt

1,879 posts

288 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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Tickover should be around 650-700rpm.
TVR Power adjusted mine to 750rpm but didn't recommend taking it any higher!
Kings originally adjusted it to 850-900rpm but then again they aren't a dealer anymore!

Trefor

14,656 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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Mine ticks over around 700rpm once warmed up. Seems a smidge lumpier on tickover when it and the weather is hot. Smooths out as soon as you apply any throttle.

neil.b

6,546 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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hobo said:
NeilB,

I spoke to dealership out this & they said it was not something I could do myself. They told me I needed to take car to a dealership, they would plug in a laptop & sort it out this way.

Would be interested to know how to do it myself.



Depends what they're talking about. I'm just talking about a quick fix (to stop the car from stalling when I'm getting it out of the garage). Plugging it into the laptop would mean they're probably going to investigate if there's an underlying problem causing the idle to fluctuate.

I was told by TVR Power (and a couple of other experienced TVR owners) that you should expect it to drift out a bit over continuous use (Its been 3000 miles since my last service so I figured its par for the course).

Edited to say : Hobo, just read your other post, leave it to the dealer if you've not even had the first service.

>> Edited by neil.b on Thursday 10th June 10:15

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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Trefor said:
Mine ticks over around 700rpm once warmed up. Seems a smidge lumpier on tickover when it and the weather is hot. Smooths out as soon as you apply any throttle.


I've often wondered why this happens.

Is it due to the fact that the cams in Speed Sixes are quite lairy?

sacha

504 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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tick over is not a mechanical ajustment neilb, its done by setting a guideline within the ecu and the tiing is advanced/retarded automaticaly so to keep preset rpm. If your car is new the last setting will change as the engine losens, so this is why it needs to be taken to a dearlership, should only take them some minutes to do.

neil.b

6,546 posts

253 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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sacha said:
tick over is not a mechanical ajustment neilb, its done by setting a guideline within the ecu and the tiing is advanced/retarded automaticaly so to keep preset rpm. If your car is new the last setting will change as the engine losens, so this is why it needs to be taken to a dearlership, should only take them some minutes to do.


interesting....

last couple of times my car has been (for other things) and I've asked for the tickover to be tweaked, I watched them do it and there was no laptop involved, just adjustment of the grub screw on the throttle. I know this is just adjusting the amount of pressure on the throttle at rest, but wasn't aware there was more to it than that....

sacha

504 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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that sounds like the problem then!! I was running a simple mapable system on my mini and even that one was ajusted using the ecu!! But i think they need to look at it again, as yes sometimes you do need to adjust the screw, but its a balance between the 2

whitey

2,508 posts

290 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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they should "always" have it connected to the laptop when adjusting the idle....to do it properly that is...

ricardo

124 posts

290 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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In cold weather my T350 ticks over roughly at an indicated 850-900rpm when the engine is cold; the same rpm but ticks over smoothly in warmer weather; but best of all it shows 750rpm but has a smooth tickover when the engine is warm.

For 'smooth' read 'as smooth as a fire breathing beast gets'

fish

3,992 posts

288 months

Thursday 10th June 2004
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As I understand it the idle speed is adjusted for temperature by the ecu adjusting timing, it has no true cold start programme. The idle stop screw is mechanical and is adjusted as neil describes. Their is I beleive no harm in lifting the idle slightly with the screw as the engine detunes as it runs in.

The engine will go out of tune and get lumpy for both cam shim wear and the throttles going out of balence. out of balence throttles also lead to lumpy idle.

Hope that helps.

InsBro

Original Poster:

79 posts

249 months

Friday 11th June 2004
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Thanks Guys

I'll ask Christopher Neil to adjust mine next time i'm there.

Jeremy

neil.b

6,546 posts

253 months

Friday 11th June 2004
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Having said all that, my car is running about as smooth as a washing-machine full of house bricks at the moment.....

rolex

3,113 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th August 2004
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neil.b said:
Mine is back to 850 after I adjusted it. Its quite common for the tick over to drift out (mine always works its way down to 550-600 after a while). The adjustment is pretty easy - you just need a 8mm spanner and an allen key (3 or 4 mm, can't remember). Its easier if you have another person to sit in the car.


Hi Neil, or anyone else in the know. whereabouts on the engine is the idle adjustment screw? my tickover is down to 600rpm and the engine has stalled a couple of times. i just want to make a temp fix before I take it into the dealer
cheers

neil.b

6,546 posts

253 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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rolex said:

neil.b said:
Mine is back to 850 after I adjusted it. Its quite common for the tick over to drift out (mine always works its way down to 550-600 after a while). The adjustment is pretty easy - you just need a 8mm spanner and an allen key (3 or 4 mm, can't remember). Its easier if you have another person to sit in the car.



Hi Neil, or anyone else in the know. whereabouts on the engine is the idle adjustment screw? my tickover is down to 600rpm and the engine has stalled a couple of times. i just want to make a temp fix before I take it into the dealer
cheers


Easiest way to find it - open the bonnet, get someone else to sit in the car and rev the engine. You'll see the throttle cable moving (stand on the passenger side of the car). You should then be able to locate the screw - test it by pressing down on it. If the engine revs you've got it!

It has a locking nut. Undo, adjust with allen key and re-tighten. Be prepared to fiddle with it a bit. I found that you had to adjust it slightly under what you want it set to, as tightening the locking nut inevitably tightened the screw slightly.

rolex

3,113 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Thanx Neil