Fuel Pump needed for large boot Monaro

Fuel Pump needed for large boot Monaro

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astonman

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217 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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Hi Guys, as per the title ,my starting problem has been now linked to the in tank fuel pump ,bleeding down fuel line pressure back into the tank.
New pumps for the later,in boot fuel tank seem to be easily and fairly cheap available,circa £200.
However, I'm struggling to find the correct pump for my early CV8 2004.
Can anyone help?
Simon.



stevieturbo

17,523 posts

254 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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astonman said:
Hi Guys, as per the title ,my starting problem has been now linked to the in tank fuel pump ,bleeding down fuel line pressure back into the tank.
New pumps for the later,in boot fuel tank seem to be easily and fairly cheap available,circa £200.
However, I'm struggling to find the correct pump for my early CV8 2004.
Can anyone help?
Simon.
Just throw a Walbro replacement in.

And if you mean pressure bleeding off when the pump is off, it's not really a problem, and should not cause any difficulties starting. Maybe just a fraction of a second longer than normal

https://www.glencoeltd.co.uk/ti-automotive-fuel-pu...

Don't fit anything larger than their basic 255 unless you have an uprated FPR etc

astonman

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217 months

Sunday 26th November 2023
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The pressure pops straight up to around 60psi at the manifold end, then rapidly drops.
You can assist starting by turning the key for a second, then turning it back,and then back on.But that only helps to prime for starting,the pressure drops right off and the whole engine,every cylinder runs weak.

stevieturbo

17,523 posts

254 months

Sunday 26th November 2023
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astonman said:
The pressure pops straight up to around 60psi at the manifold end, then rapidly drops.
You can assist starting by turning the key for a second, then turning it back,and then back on.But that only helps to prime for starting,the pressure drops right off and the whole engine,every cylinder runs weak.
If the crank is turning, the pump will be energised.

On Key on, the pump will energise for a few seconds to prime, then off again if you do not start cranking.

All perfectly normal.

Doing the key sequence you mention, is completely pointless. Just turn the key and start the car.

If you're saying there are fuel pressure issues when the pump is actually running, then that is a different matter. Although yes the pump does have an internal check valve so the system should hold pressure when off. But it really makes negligible difference to starting, barely a split second.

astonman

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217 months

Sunday 26th November 2023
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The fuel pressure drops off, dramatically within moment of turning the engine over.
So,a fuel check valve issue?

stevieturbo

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254 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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astonman said:
The fuel pressure drops off, dramatically within moment of turning the engine over.
So,a fuel check valve issue?
If the engine is turning over, then the fuel pump should be running

If the fuel pressure drops with the pump off, then it is either a regulator issue....that would be a genuine problem. Or the check valve, which is built into the pump. Not really a problem
Because if the pump is running, and FPR working ok, you will have pressure.

fred bloggs

1,354 posts

207 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Should be plenty of parts either from australia or rock auto.

astonman

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799 posts

217 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Turn the ignition on,pump works,the Fuel pressure goes up to 60 psi and then drops off very rapidly ,before you even turn the engine over.AAS diagnosed issue with in tank pump.
It a large boot car,it's Not US spec,so presumably Rock Auto won't have the pump assembly I need?
The engine is running weak on both banks and all plugs show weak mixture.
I can see stuff in Oz eBay ,but it's difficult to be absolutely sure ,it's the right assembly.
I've been quoted £500 from Walkinshaw,for the pump,but even they may need to get one from Oz.

Edited by astonman on Monday 27th November 16:17

stevieturbo

17,523 posts

254 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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astonman said:
Turn the ignition on,pump works,the Fuel pressure goes up to 60 psi and then drops off very rapidly ,before you even turn the engine over.AAS diagnosed issue with in tank pump.
It a large boot car,it's Not US spec,so presumably Rock Auto won't have the pump assembly I need?
The engine is running weak on both banks and all plugs show weak mixture.
I can see stuff in Oz eBay ,but it's difficult to be absolutely sure ,it's the right assembly.
I've been quoted £500 from Walkinshaw,for the pump,but even they may need to get one from Oz.

Edited by astonman on Monday 27th November 16:17
You don't need the entire assembly. Just fit a universal Walbro kit.

Can't AAS supply and fit a pump if they diagnosed it ?



stevieturbo

17,523 posts

254 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Whilst you don't need to buy from abroad, this

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOLDEN-HSV-Monaro-V2-2...


Fitting a pump is basic stuff.

astonman

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217 months

astonman

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217 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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My car is totally standard,any thoughts on the Walbro verses the Goss pump ?

stevieturbo

17,523 posts

254 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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I've never heard of Goss

Walbro make and supply millions of pumps every year, and are well known reliable as long as genuine