Monaro hand brake shoes and brake cables

Monaro hand brake shoes and brake cables

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Gelf VXR

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713 posts

213 months

Friday 17th September 2021
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Hi All

Does anyone have the part number for the brakes shoes and the cables, 3 I think?

I noticed it need adjustment, just pased the MOT thou, failed last year, thinking more preventative maintenance, only 40k miles done, are the shoes known for wearing out and the cables failing?

Failed emmisions high >0.25CO and 1.04 lambda, suspect they didnt get it hot enough, Its a wortec system, anyway ordered new front O2 sensors to fit before go back, this time arranged test immiedetily i arrive when its hot. Question I have is if the cats or in need of replacement are there any places that will cut out the cats and weld in a new ones, or any known suppliers of replacement cat that fits the wortec system?

Also, I just recieved ss brake line and fuel line kit, looking for somewhere in Wiltshire area to trust with fitting them at same time as hand brake overhaul?


Long time since I last post

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Friday 17th September 2021
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The handbrake cables and shoes should last for quite some time and are not known as a Monaro failure point.
The handbrake cable can be adjusted to take up the slack and the shoes really don't wear out unless they are sticking on slightly.
Try AAS in Newcastle if you do need new cats but wherever you buy them from they wont be cheap.
Before you start spending cash It might be worth replacing your O2 sensors and pouring some cat clean into the fuel tank. Give give the car a long hot run which hopefully will clean the cats out. That may or may not work but worth a try.
I suppose the big question is why have the cats failed in the first place? I would check for physical damage and don't rule out a rich or lean fuel mixture which can cause issues with the cats.

Edited by mfp4073 on Saturday 18th September 08:02

vxr2010

2,594 posts

165 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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Hand brake as above should last a long time , most likely cats not hot enough , if 02 sensors not working it throws an error message , as you stated take it for a good run then get it tested , lots of places weld cats in but i don’t think that’s your problem , not local but topcats or for that matter and competent garage can do the lines for you , not cheap though but if it needs doing then it needs doing

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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I forgot to ask but where do you get the brake and fuel line kits from.
My car has just passed its mot and it's on the original lines, but it is still a bit of a worry due to the cars age.

vxr2010

2,594 posts

165 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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i got braided ones made up , a chap called Neil ( who is on this site ) does them on ebay , the hard lines were supplied by topcats , nickel copper lines were put in , including fuel lines , mine were not too bad but needed doing if nothing else peace of mind , it’s not cheap , rear subframe does not need to be dropped as joints can be made instead , i remember the Fish saying some one bought their car in for the lines to be done , as it was being driven into the shop a line failed and foot went to the floor

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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vxr2010 said:
i got braided ones made up , a chap called Neil ( who is on this site ) does them on ebay , the hard lines were supplied by topcats , nickel copper lines were put in , including fuel lines , mine were not too bad but needed doing if nothing else peace of mind , it’s not cheap , rear subframe does not need to be dropped as joints can be made instead , i remember the Fish saying some one bought their car in for the lines to be done , as it was being driven into the shop a line failed and foot went to the floor
Thanks vxr2010,

Yes I think I'll get mine done next year, like you say if only for peace of mind.
Just the thought of losing brake pressure in a Monaro yikes

Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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mfp4073 said:
I forgot to ask but where do you get the brake and fuel line kits from.
My car has just passed its mot and it's on the original lines, but it is still a bit of a worry due to the cars age.
AAS did my fuel lines mate. In stainless.
My brake lines were replaced by a local garage when I first got the car. As said above, sub frame doesn't need to come down at all.
Personally though, I gives yours a real good inspection first, they might actually be perfectly fine as your car as been well looked after for a long time and protected against the elements.
As good as some of these guys are that will replace the lines, they never be quite as neat as original.

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
AAS did my fuel lines mate. In stainless.
My brake lines were replaced by a local garage when I first got the car. As said above, sub frame doesn't need to come down at all.
Personally though, I gives yours a real good inspection first, they might actually be perfectly fine as your car as been well looked after for a long time and protected against the elements.
As good as some of these guys are that will replace the lines, they never be quite as neat as original.
Thanks Lincis1,
I have seen a few cars ( not Monaro's ) that have had replacement brake lines and they looked like a terrible fitment. I appreciate there's no way you're going to get a factory look but even so they should look half decent.
It's highly unlikely that a purpose built kit will be available anytime soon so I'll give Stuart a call next year. I wouldn't dare ask him to squeeze my car in again after my air con debarcle last month, he would either throw me out of his work shop or have a melt down hehe

Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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mfp4073 said:
Thanks Lincis1,
I have seen a few cars ( not Monaro's ) that have had replacement brake lines and they looked like a terrible fitment. I appreciate there's no way you're going to get a factory look but even so they should look half decent.
It's highly unlikely that a purpose built kit will be available anytime soon so I'll give Stuart a call next year. I wouldn't dare ask him to squeeze my car in again after my air con debarcle last month, he would either throw me out of his work shop or have a melt down hehe
Yes, I was very pleased with AAS and their fuel lines, nothing wrong with them, and seems I got lucky with my brake lines too.
Tidy job,especially where it matters most under the bonnet. He managed to make it look very factory under there, I've seen a few Monaro for sale on eBay that have had theirs done and the bends around the ABS unit are really crap and nothing like the original. It matters some, not to others.

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

213 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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mfp4073 said:
I forgot to ask but where do you get the brake and fuel line kits from.
My car has just passed its mot and it's on the original lines, but it is still a bit of a worry due to the cars age.
I got them here, fuel lines too. Already diy fitted and recommended by member on FB group. I ordered them just over a week ago, arrived in no time smile

https://www.sstubes.com/products/cbk0069ss-05-06-p...

https://www.sstubes.com/products/agl0401ss-04-06-g...

Garage did fail it last year for corrosion on brake lines, but later said the inspector was over zealous and clean the pipe and applied grease.


Edited by Gelf VXR on Saturday 18th September 16:10


Edited by Gelf VXR on Saturday 18th September 16:12

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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Thanks guys, I'll keep the info in mind. thumbup
Lincis1 those brake lines look like a very good fitment, I'd be very happy with that standard of work.

L2VXR

990 posts

219 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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The gto brake line kit only fits small boot monaro's big boot have different arrangement . I think the fuel lines are the same though.

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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L2VXR said:
The gto brake line kit only fits small boot monaro's big boot have different arrangement . I think the fuel lines are the same though.
Thanks L2VXR good to know thumbup

maccavvy

660 posts

170 months

Saturday 18th September 2021
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monaro handbrakes are an odd design one large horseshoe per side.

not known for wearing out but lack of use and age causes the lining to fall off.

also not the easiest to balance correctly. should back cables off...adjust at shoe then tighten cables

also will be a ip on inside of disc.. grind that off.

Lee20k

104 posts

106 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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Ssangyong Korando have the same hand brake shoes. smile

SturdyHSV

10,206 posts

173 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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L2VXR said:
The gto brake line kit only fits small boot monaro's big boot have different arrangement . I think the fuel lines are the same though.
That would be surprising if the fuel line was the same, just because the lines must presumably be in a different place as the fuel tank is in a different place? scratchchin

L2VXR

990 posts

219 months

Monday 20th September 2021
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SturdyHSV said:
That would be surprising if the fuel line was the same, just because the lines must presumably be in a different place as the fuel tank is in a different place? scratchchin
The fuel lines finish in the subframe area the same then on a big boot car are connected to the filter and pump then on to the tank with plastic pipes, on small boot cars the plastic pipes are different and go up into the boot space then to the tank.
Im not guaranteeing it im just going on a few threads I've seen.


Edited by L2VXR on Monday 20th September 17:20


Edited by L2VXR on Monday 20th September 17:26

SturdyHSV

10,206 posts

173 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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L2VXR said:
The fuel lines finish in the subframe area the same then on a big boot car are connected to the filter and pump then on to the tank with plastic pipes, on small boot cars the plastic pipes are different and go up into the boot space then to the tank.
Im not guaranteeing it im just going on a few threads I've seen.


Edited by L2VXR on Monday 20th September 17:20


Edited by L2VXR on Monday 20th September 17:26
Ah yes of course, that makes sense, I forgot there was the little plastic hose that goes to the tank thumbup

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st September 2021
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Can anyone confirm the GTO brake shoes and cables, if I opt to get spares, will they fit the Monaro small boot, GM part numbers would be great if some one knows them.