Up to date values guide

[Duke Caboom]

Hi, I'm looking for a Monaro but since there are very few for sale at a time is difficult to price then. Is there an up to date guide anywhere?

Thanks

[MarvinTPA]

You will be going on condition, not age, mileage or any of that regular stuff. Prices seem to be starting at 10k, and rising to 20k + - all on condition and upgrades. All the usual 2nd hand car buying things apply. Look at it in the flesh, check for 'footprints' signs of badly done maintenance/upgrades or signs of abuse.
Having said all that, I paid 7k for mine with st tyres, paint missing from osf wing, engine bay looking like st ( not much better now, but it's my st ), interior 'valeted' ( not properly cleaned ), cigarette burn in the roof liner ( still there ), alloys that looked like cack, handing differently from one side to the other ( rear toe in -4 on one side +1 on other as it turned out ). All this knowing that as long as the body was straight, no accident damage, the engine and gearbox looked and worked ok, everything else was just fixable and helped me to get the price down.

[mfp4073]

I don't think there are any official price guides for these cars as they are in short supply and getting old.
You could try Elite cars who sell Monaros and VXR8's as do MW performance, they will give you a ball park figure.
I would think any car below 5k would be going to the scap yard
6-8k for a car that needs work
10k for a decent car
15k for a really good car
20k for the best examples
Obviously I'm going to get flamed now.....

[MarvinTPA]

I completely agree. Also prices should slowly rise in the future, they've been stable as this level for quite some time now.

[Lincsls1]

I generally agree with the above.

<5k a rough CV8 that will need work or breaking for parts. You aren't getting a working VXR for this money.
5-7k for a CV8 that needs work and TLC.
7-8k might get you a tired VXR in need of TLC
8-10k for a nice decent car, closer to 10k for the VXR.
15k for a really good car, the mileage wants to be low.
20k for the best examples, mileage wants to be very low.

Prices are in general, solid. Have been for years, and if anything slowly rising.
IMO of course.

[Duke Caboom]

Thanks for all the replies, guys. Very helpful.

[91964]

mfp4073 said:

I don't think there are any official price guides for these cars as they are in short supply and getting old.
You could try Elite cars who sell Monaros and VXR8's as do MW performance, they will give you a ball park figure.
I would think any car below 5k would be going to the scap yard
6-8k for a car that needs work
10k for a decent car
15k for a really good car
20k for the best examples
Obviously I'm going to get flamed now.....

Agree

[stu vxr]

Duke Caboom said:

Thanks for all the replies, guys. Very helpful.

Looking at your garage I would be very careful before you buy, try to drive as many variants as you can.

A Monaro really is a niche choice, mine is the best car I have ever owned and always will be, under my skin so to speak, rubbish as a daily, I have a Mercedes to do that (Boring always prompting me and telling me of) great car though but just to perfect.

Good luck with your search, there really is something special about our cars

Hope the above makes sense!.

Edited by stu vxr on Wednesday 30th December 23:19

[Duke Caboom]

stu vxr said:

Duke Caboom said:

Thanks for all the replies, guys. Very helpful.

Looking at your garage I would be very careful before you buy, try to drive as many variants as you can.

A Monaro really is a niche choice, mine is the best car I have ever owned and always will be, under my skin so to speak, rubbish as a daily, I have a Mercedes to do that (Boring always prompting me and telling me of) great car though but just to perfect.

Good luck with your search, there really is something special about our cars

Hope the above makes sense!.

Edited by stu vxr on Wednesday 30th December 23:19

Hi, Thanks for your reply. My garage was about 10 years out of date so I've changed that. To save you looking, current garage is an EP3 Type R, which is supposed to be mostly for sprints and hillclimbs, but actually gets used on the road quite often. We also have my wife's Yaris T Sport for her to nip about in.

This new car (potentially Monaro) would be a third car and is really to replace a BMW 428i which was efficient and fast enough but lacked charisma, particularly a charismatic engine. The BMW replaced a Mercedes B200 Turbo which we bought when we had the kids, 9 years ago. So the new car needs space for a family, but they are agile enough to get in and out of a coupe.

The BMW met an early death in a flood and I have the insurance payout waiting to be spent.

I'd be really interested in your thoughts on why a Monaro might not float my boat. I'm not at all convinced by them but they tick a lot of boxes and it would provide a good contrast to the Civic and the Yaris, have a charismatic engine, and not cost a fortune to look after. It will do less than 6k miles a year, none of it urban, so fuel not really a concern. However, I've probably over thought it so would happily hear your thoughts and advice.

[Lincsls1]

Duke Caboom said:

So the new car needs space for a family, but they are agile enough to get in and out of a coupe.

Do you need a decent boot space too? If so, then only the early 2004 VXR and early 2004 CV8 will provide this.
The later 2005 cars (identified by exhaust exits at both sides & bonnet snouts) have the fuel tank in the boot halving boot size.
Note all UK Monaro are 2004-2005 regardless of registration plate.

[SturdyHSV]

Lincsls1 said:

I generally agree with the above.

<5k a rough CV8 that will need work or breaking for parts. You aren't getting a working VXR for this money.
5-7k for a CV8 that needs work and TLC.
7-8k might get you a tired VXR in need of TLC
8-10k for a nice decent car, closer to 10k for the VXR.
15k for a really good car, the mileage wants to be low.
20k for the best examples, mileage wants to be very low.

Prices are in general, solid. Have been for years, and if anything slowly rising.
IMO of course.

I'd agree with this, although <£5k and it's going to be immediately bought for the engine and gearbox and the rest of it solds as parts, as an LS and a T56 together are easily worth £5,000 in the UK. Personally I'd be very surprised if any actually sold at £20k, I would guess peak Monaro sale price to be £18k maybe, but it would have to be ludicrously perfect (and for that to be what you wanted)

I think decent VXRs are perhaps more 10k-12k, but obviously it's a bit of a spectrum

Duke Caboom said:

Hi, Thanks for your reply. My garage was about 10 years out of date so I've changed that. To save you looking, current garage is an EP3 Type R, which is supposed to be mostly for sprints and hillclimbs, but actually gets used on the road quite often. We also have my wife's Yaris T Sport for her to nip about in.

This new car (potentially Monaro) would be a third car and is really to replace a BMW 428i which was efficient and fast enough but lacked charisma, particularly a charismatic engine. The BMW replaced a Mercedes B200 Turbo which we bought when we had the kids, 9 years ago. So the new car needs space for a family, but they are agile enough to get in and out of a coupe.

The BMW met an early death in a flood and I have the insurance payout waiting to be spent.

I'd be really interested in your thoughts on why a Monaro might not float my boat. I'm not at all convinced by them but they tick a lot of boxes and it would provide a good contrast to the Civic and the Yaris, have a charismatic engine, and not cost a fortune to look after. It will do less than 6k miles a year, none of it urban, so fuel not really a concern. However, I've probably over thought it so would happily hear your thoughts and advice.

You're definitely making the right noises with words like 'charisma' and 'engine' as things you're looking for. I think they can depend on your personality type, if you like 'the best of the best' or you like the idea of sophistication or superior quality to other options and those are the things you derive enjoyment from, you may end up feeling like something is missing. If you like more simple 'fun' and are perhaps secretly a 5 year old in a grown up's body, they may be the perfect match.

Wine vs Beer, Mozart vs AC/DC etc. It's obviously very possible to enjoy all of them, but what would be your favourite of a weekend for a bit of fun sort of thing.

[Duke Caboom]

I think I'd like to be a wine connoisseur but need to face up to the fact that, deep down, I'd often prefer 4 pints of lager. ,

[dazvxr]

Duke Caboom said:

I think I'd like to be a wine connoisseur but need to face up to the fact that, deep down, I'd often prefer 4 pints of lager. ,

Lager??? that'll be a Fosters then mate &#128521;

I've had quite a few motors, but always wanted an american V8, but couldn't deal with a LHD in UK, I saw monaro being tested on top gear years ago, decided one day I'll have one. Anyhow fast forward past many mundane euroboxes, and jags, I was in a position to look for one. A few cars tempted me, and with a bit of direction from the HSV/VXR8 page on FB and this page, I weedled out the 'sketchy' ones . Thankfully being an uncommon car the history of a good number is known.

My 04vxr doesn't dissapoint it's a driver's car, you've got to drive it, not like modern cars that are almost autonomous, these aren't, buy one, if you don't like it you can always flog it again with virtually zero depreciation??

[SturdyHSV]

Duke Caboom said:

I think I'd like to be a wine connoisseur but need to face up to the fact that, deep down, I'd often prefer 4 pints of lager. ,

Welcome aboard, first round is on the house

[Duke Caboom]

Thanks for all the replies. Good advice.

Went in a different direction (BMW) in the end.

[stu vxr]

Good choice, think you have made the right decision given your comments throughout your thread.

Enjoy your new car and best of luck.

[99PBATR]

[quote=stu vxr]

Looking at your garage I would be very careful before you buy, try to drive as many variants as you can.

A Monaro really is a niche choice, mine is the best car I have ever owned and always will be, under my skin so to speak, rubbish as a daily, I have a Mercedes to do that (Boring always prompting me and telling me of) great car though but just to perfect.

Good luck with your search, there really is something special about our cars

Hope the above makes sense!.


That made me laugh as exactly my situation. BMW as a daily which is hyper capable, comfy, economical and gets driven like a grandma with a werthers original in her mouth...but ultimately a bit boring. The Monaro is driven like it got stolen (hello officer), would be horrible as a daily with its silly heavy clutch ...but....driving it is an event and it just puts a stonking great smile on my face every time I look at it, thats without even driving it. It looks mean just standing still. As for the sound of a supercharged LS2....pure automotive porn i think. There is nothing else that sounds quite like it I don't think and I guess i'm old school because I roll my eyes everytime I hear a sequential gear box change gear on a supercar...BORING...give me a manual any day frankly. THAT is what a car should sound like IMO. I plan to make i sound even meaner this year by fitting a Badlanz twin switchable exhaust valve kit. Would be interested if anyone has experience of one of these as I am told that they are excellent quality. Car only gets driven pretty much in the dry.

Edited by 99PBATR on Saturday 9th January 20:32

Edited by 99PBATR on Saturday 9th January 20:33

[stu vxr]

99PBATR]tu vxr said:

Looking at your garage I would be very careful before you buy, try to drive as many variants as you can.

A Monaro really is a niche choice, mine is the best car I have ever owned and always will be, under my skin so to speak, rubbish as a daily, I have a Mercedes to do that (Boring always prompting me and telling me of) great car though but just to perfect.

Good luck with your search, there really is something special about our cars

Hope the above makes sense!.


That made me laugh as exactly my situation. BMW as a daily which is hyper capable, comfy, economical and gets driven like a grandma with a werthers original in her mouth...but ultimately a bit boring. The Monaro is driven like it got stolen (hello officer), would be horrible as a daily with its silly heavy clutch ...but....driving it is an event and it just puts a stonking great smile on my face every time I look at it, thats without even driving it. It looks mean just standing still. As for the sound of a supercharged LS2....pure automotive porn i think. There is nothing else that sounds quite like it I don't think and I guess i'm old school because I roll my eyes everytime I hear a sequential gear box change gear on a supercar...BORING...give me a manual any day frankly. THAT is what a car should sound like IMO. I plan to make i sound even meaner this year by fitting a Badlanz twin switchable exhaust valve kit. Would be interested if anyone has experience of one of these as I am told that they are excellent quality. Car only gets driven pretty much in the dry.


Great post so glad people exist like me, check out the original poster on the BMW forum.

Our cars really are special.

Edited by 99PBATR on Saturday 9th January 20:32

Edited by 99PBATR on Saturday 9th January 20:33

[leviCV8]

Lincsls1 said:

I generally agree with the above.

<5k a rough CV8 that will need work or breaking for parts. You aren't getting a working VXR for this money.
5-7k for a CV8 that needs work and TLC.
7-8k might get you a tired VXR in need of TLC
8-10k for a nice decent car, closer to 10k for the VXR.
15k for a really good car, the mileage wants to be low.
20k for the best examples, mileage wants to be very low.

Prices are in general, solid. Have been for years, and if anything slowly rising.
IMO of course.

I've been checking the classifieds and autotrader every few weeks and I think I've seen 1 car in the last year for less than 8k at Keighley Motorhub which I am sure put many buyers off

Don't think anything less than 7k would be on the market for long these days? Only think I can see struggling sell for much less than this would be something with serious issues.

[stu vxr]

leviCV8 said:

I've been checking the classifieds and autotrader every few weeks and I think I've seen 1 car in the last year for less than 8k at Keighley Motorhub which I am sure put many buyers off

Don't think anything less than 7k would be on the market for long these days? Only think I can see struggling sell for much less than this would be something with serious issues.

Oh dear help will be along shortly. Please explain to us all what you mean?