lost of car for sale that seem to have just been bought

lost of car for sale that seem to have just been bought

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selondonman

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153 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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maybe it is due to corona and unemployment .. but there seems to be a few monaros currently for sale where the seller says they only bought the cars a few months ago .. i was wondering if there is a issue with ownership .. ie cars breaking down, servicing , getting parts, insurance etc or is it just unfortunately a sign of the times

anonymous-user

60 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Nothing inherently wrong with them, they are simple beasts and not expensive to service. However 26 mpg may be more than some can stomach and they are quite agricultural. I’d not run one as my daily but as a second or third car they are great. I’m quite happy that more of these become sheds and are eventually broken, means good ones become even rarer.

Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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selondonman said:
maybe it is due to corona and unemployment .. but there seems to be a few monaros currently for sale where the seller says they only bought the cars a few months ago .. i was wondering if there is a issue with ownership .. ie cars breaking down, servicing , getting parts, insurance etc or is it just unfortunately a sign of the times
Yeah, I've noticed this myself.
There's definitely nothing unreliable about them and mechanical parts are still widely available at reasonable cost too.
But they are in a niche market, and although some run them daily, most won't. Times are now hard, things have changed massively all of a sudden. The second car might have to go in some house holds.
Some may also buy them expecting something else, like an alternative to a M3 for example. Nope, they are nothing like. They are a relatively old school muscle car, with a basic, but solid platform and drivetrain. I wouldn't want mine as a daily, definitely something to cherish and enjoy on a weekend or evening.

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Absolutely nothing unusual about Monaros, as Wormus pointed out they are simple cars to maintain. These cars are really no different to Corvettes, Camaros or Firebirds with regards to servicing and they have been around since the 60's.
Mechanical parts are easy to get, body panels and trim pieces are proving difficult due to relatively low production numbers and the fact that Holden no longer exists doesn't help.
Again I agree with what Wormus said in that I wouldn't like to drive one everyday, they are agricultural around the town, with low teens for MPG. Having said that some owners do drive them everyday and are happy to do so.
Personally I like to keep my car off the road during winter and take it out when the road salt has gone, even then I use it only once or twice a week.
Mind you if you do bend the car or someone runs into you it's pretty much guaranteed the insurance company will write it off.
Monaro's are old school cars, I think some people buy them to scratch an itch, then move on to something modern.
As with all cars, do plenty of research and go in with your eyes open...easier said than done I know.
For me I'll probably keep my car, even though I often dream about a 70's muscle car, but in reality a sorted Monaro is a very potent thing....in 1970's kind of way smile

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Edited by mfp4073 on Saturday 6th June 12:39

throwyourbike

705 posts

157 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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My Monaro has been a second car for 6 years.

I went from a diesel Insignia to an Astra VXR for the daily stuff back in February. Shortly after, lockdown began.
It has only covered about 20 miles in the last 12 weeks - I already had a weekend car, I don’t need two!

My point being, a lot of people’s circumstances have changed, I don’t think it’s a reflection on the cars at all.




Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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mfp4073 said:
Monaro's are old school cars, I think some people buy them to scratch an itch, then move on to something modern.
As with all cars, do plenty of research and go in with your eyes open...easier said than done I know.
For me I'll probably keep my car, even though I often dream about a 70's muscle car, but in reality a sorted Monaro is a very potent thing....in 1970's kind of way smile
I too like the idea of something proper 'old school' like something from the 70's USA, but...I think this is where the Monaro comes into play. I'd bet in truth that these 70's muscle cars are actually pretty awful to drive, and being LHD further compromised. And unless heavily modified they are just slow, handle badly and have brakes the size of a milk bottle top!
The Monaro is modern enough to be nice to drive,reliable and safe. They have enough creature comforts without being a laptop on wheels. It does an average of 26mpg vs a possible 10!! Has 6 gears instead of 3 or 4! And they are still quick cars ~5 seconds to 60, 170mph.
Give a Monaro long enough and it will become just as cool as what you perceive a 70's muscle car to be too!

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Lincsls1 said:
I too like the idea of something proper 'old school' like something from the 70's USA, but...I think this is where the Monaro comes into play. I'd bet in truth that these 70's muscle cars are actually pretty awful to drive, and being LHD further compromised. And unless heavily modified they are just slow, handle badly and have brakes the size of a milk bottle top!
The Monaro is modern enough to be nice to drive,reliable and safe. They have enough creature comforts without being a laptop on wheels. It does an average of 26mpg vs a possible 10!! Has 6 gears instead of 3 or 4! And they are still quick cars ~5 seconds to 60, 170mph.
Give a Monaro long enough and it will become just as cool as what you perceive a 70's muscle car to be too!
Lincsis1, I have to agree with you as well yikes
Yes you are right, I remember what a handful my 74 Challenger was, and my brothers 71 Firebird was the same. But they were the cars to have.....45+ years agofrown
In the future the Monaro will probably be looked upon in a similar light smile

Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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mfp4073 said:
Yes you are right, I remember what a handful my 74 Challenger was, and my brothers 71 Firebird was the same. But they were the cars to have.....45+ years agofrown
In the future the Monaro will probably be looked upon in a similar light smile
Don't get me wrong though, there's nothing cooler than a 70's muscle car such as the above, massive sense of occasion on the odd sunny Sunday morning. And lovely to display at a car show.

RipGMH

285 posts

64 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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I’ve noticed the same and it is definitely COVID impact. As other have said these are often second / weekend cars and luxuries are the first thing to go when trying to pay rent / mortgage.

It’s a sad sign of the times which unfortunately will continue.


As for weighing in on the 70s muscle discussion, I’d agree that the basic nature of the Monaro given them that classic feel, which is what I love about it. I do have a 1970 holden six cylinder, not a worked motor. Same simplicity but with the 70s car you need to think about breaking, keep your distance in traffic and consider the gaps before pulling out into traffic.

The Monaro will definitely become a classic, they are the last ever Holden coupe, and carry the famous Monaro name. The original monaros are now selling for £60k in Aus, with concourse models over £100k.

V8fan

6,510 posts

274 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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I take it you mean the 70s Monaros?

But even the modern ones seem to have much higher asking prices in Aus than here. Even allowing for the exchange rate, these are high asking prices. I believe there are traders now considering exporting V8 Monaro cars back to Australia:

https://www.autotrader.com.au/for-sale/holden/mona...

S47

1,325 posts

186 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown

V8fan

6,510 posts

274 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Yes, you put almost exactly the same comment in January. Since you said you were happy with your Camaro, why put up such BS here?

Lincsls1

3,415 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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S47 said:
Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown
That's a very negative post fella, not really necessary.
Talking of BS, you stating that a lot of those for sale will be scrapped within a year unless they have considerable major work done is just BS!!laugh
I point you in the direction of a very well used Monaro, deliberated under loved and well past its best.
Its a UK Monaro with nearly 240k miles on it - and a fresh ticket.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

throwyourbike

705 posts

157 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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S47 said:
Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown
Have you STILL not got over this yet? laugh



MarvinTPA

237 posts

135 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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throwyourbike said:
S47 said:
Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown
Have you STILL not got over this yet? laugh
Go and find a grinder for that axe S47 this is getting tedious.

anonymous-user

60 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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S47 said:
Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown
I see your search for a free Monaro isn't going terribly well. Try increasing your budget to match the market value and you may have more luck. Here, I've even gone to the trouble of picking a car for you.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

stu vxr

276 posts

113 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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wormus said:
S47 said:
Loadsa Dreamers about at the mo attempting to sell their Monaro for silly £'s - Looked for over a year for one at a realistic price - saw plenty of those for sale, most were Rusty bins which would need major work within a year sellers see one Uk dealer asking X£ Amount and ask the same for their Rustbucket. - If you want a monaro be VERY careful a lotof those for sale will be Scrapped withibn a year unless they have considerable major work done.
Plenty of other Chevy LS series saloons/coupes for sale at sensible prices - Good luck - but buy a good 'un not a rusty one with shiny paintwork advertised by a loudmouthed BS 'erfrown
I see your search for a free Monaro isn't going terribly well. Try increasing your budget to match the market value and you may have more luck. Here, I've even gone to the trouble of picking a car for you.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Love it! Couldn't have put it better myself Wormus.

slimtater

1,035 posts

176 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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It is an odd time full stop!

The lockdown at least brought a few benefits:
  • a greater appreciation of what truly matters in life such as lives, health, family and social contact
  • generally quieter roads when you are able to take your Monaro or VXR8 out
  • the cheapest fuel I can remember for some time - even decent super unleaded was reduced
  • for some, an insurance refund
I was lucky as my job and therefore income remained safe - others (who may have just bought something) may not have been so lucky.

Without contradicting myself now, I am selling/replacing my 'ro for no other reason than wanting to go to an auto. My age and career has taken its toll on my back but I want the same thrill so looking for an auto s/c VXR8, C63 AMG or similar.


Edited by slimtater on Monday 8th June 12:18