Higher mileage Monaro VXR...90k+
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No reason at all. And what's high mileage about a 15 year old car with 90k on the clock? That's 6k/year.
What mileage do you think you'll do in it annually?
Condition is key, not mileage. Some real rough low mileage cars around. Judge the car in the flesh by what you see, feel and hear. Not the odometer.
Nice key upgrades there that are almost essential. AP kit is roughly £2300+fitting, cat back roughly £1200, if its the full exhaust £2k+
Pedders suspension £1000 and so on. The brakes are a biggest plus IMO.
They are a niche car, market is small for them and so they take some time to sell for what they are worth. Obviously cheap cars get snapped up.
What mileage do you think you'll do in it annually?
Condition is key, not mileage. Some real rough low mileage cars around. Judge the car in the flesh by what you see, feel and hear. Not the odometer.
Nice key upgrades there that are almost essential. AP kit is roughly £2300+fitting, cat back roughly £1200, if its the full exhaust £2k+
Pedders suspension £1000 and so on. The brakes are a biggest plus IMO.
They are a niche car, market is small for them and so they take some time to sell for what they are worth. Obviously cheap cars get snapped up.
maccavvy said:
One that's clean tidy and we'll modded is worth far more than lower mileage unmodified..
As above the mods cost a fortune so more is better.
Buy on condition alone.
Nothing else matters.. they will do 500k well serviced
Not sure about that, in the long run a low mileage unmodified example will always be worth more, I own a low mileage heavily modified one.As above the mods cost a fortune so more is better.
Buy on condition alone.
Nothing else matters.. they will do 500k well serviced
A high mileage Monaro in any form will never command a high price or investment, having said that they are a great way to get into our cars at entry level.
Certainly in terms of investment potential, standard cars with low mileage are better, but absolutely does not guarantee excellent condition. High mileage cars can still be in excellent condition. Its all about previous ownership and how they've been kept, driven and invested in.
When on the hunt for my current Monaro, I viewed a dog rough silver VXR with around half the miles on the clock as the one I actually bought. And it was up for quite a few more notes!
When on the hunt for my current Monaro, I viewed a dog rough silver VXR with around half the miles on the clock as the one I actually bought. And it was up for quite a few more notes!
If you're buying one of these for investment you're wasting your money anyway really, personally although I was of the 'low mileage' crowd when I bought mine many years ago, personally now I'd look for a higher mileage one with as many of the mods as possible already done to save the money 
A friend bought a 90k mile VXR about 9 months ago with a decent array of the monkfish shopping list on, it drove excellently and other than the numbers on the dash, you'd have no chance of guessing the mileage.
Price wise was very similar, bit of a haggle got it a little lower but still above 11, the array of mods have saved him spending the money himself and it's been his daily ever since, only unexpected costs were from battering a deer which needed a new bumper sadly.
A friend bought a 90k mile VXR about 9 months ago with a decent array of the monkfish shopping list on, it drove excellently and other than the numbers on the dash, you'd have no chance of guessing the mileage.
Price wise was very similar, bit of a haggle got it a little lower but still above 11, the array of mods have saved him spending the money himself and it's been his daily ever since, only unexpected costs were from battering a deer which needed a new bumper sadly.
Z4MCSL said:
Any reason this is a bad idea?
I'm looking at a car circa 12k with some great mods....AP brakes, Wortec exhaust, pedders etc..
Seems good?
These cars do seem to take forever to sell tho?
No reason not too. Although how close are you to C5 Corvette prices these days? And at that price it makes me cry how much I sold my LS1 Camaro for.I'm looking at a car circa 12k with some great mods....AP brakes, Wortec exhaust, pedders etc..
Seems good?
These cars do seem to take forever to sell tho?
mfp4073 said:
Mind you Americans think nothing of putting 300k on the clock while in the UK we think 100,000 miles and it's game over.
Yes quite. This especially seems to be the case in the niche car market.Not so much in the newish prestige market though. Loads of 5 series, Range Rover, A6 etc. exchanging hands with 150k+ on the clock.
mfp4073 said:
180k, that's pretty good going. What parts did you have to replace at 150k?
At 150k I found bushes, lower ball joints needed replacing, and goes without saying but the standard suspension was well past its best. Also had to replace the alternator, starter motor and AC idle bearing, plus gearbox output seal, diff input seal and prop centre bearing.None of those would be unexpected on any car to be honest at that mileage, but it's easy to lose sight of that at the time when they all arrive within a year or two and your wallet takes a battering.
Glyn84 said:
At 150k I found bushes, lower ball joints needed replacing, and goes without saying but the standard suspension was well past its best. Also had to replace the alternator, starter motor and AC idle bearing, plus gearbox output seal, diff input seal and prop centre bearing.
None of those would be unexpected on any car to be honest at that mileage, but it's easy to lose sight of that at the time when they all arrive within a year or two and your wallet takes a battering.
TBH that's very good going to say the least None of those would be unexpected on any car to be honest at that mileage, but it's easy to lose sight of that at the time when they all arrive within a year or two and your wallet takes a battering.
stu vxr said:
Not sure about that, in the long run a low mileage unmodified example will always be worth more, I own a low mileage heavily modified one.
A high mileage Monaro in any form will never command a high price or investment, having said that they are a great way to get into our cars at entry level.
Maybe I worded it poorly.. nearly everyone wants to mod a monaro.. I know the standard exhaust for instance rusts and appeals to nearly no one.. so time to mod.. standard stoppers are poor...so time to mod.. before you e done that all adds big money you'll never get back..A high mileage Monaro in any form will never command a high price or investment, having said that they are a great way to get into our cars at entry level.
And one that's been treasured with high miles is worth more in maintenance savings than a low mileage uncared for example.
Vehicles without enough mileage are worse than well maintained high milage examlpes. Yes a low miler will perhaps have nice original paint, but rubber items deteriorate with time, whether you drive or not. Brakes/cables seize,rust still, well, rusts,tyres get deteriorated,all while sitting still.
Whatever vehicle you drive,you pay to maintain,driven or not. May as well drive and enjoy.
Id buy any car with 90k on it as long as it has been maintained.
Whatever vehicle you drive,you pay to maintain,driven or not. May as well drive and enjoy.
Id buy any car with 90k on it as long as it has been maintained.
Edited by fred bloggs on Wednesday 29th April 17:34
fred bloggs said:
Vehicles without enough mileage are worse than well maintained high milage examlpes. Yes a low miler will perhaps have nice original paint, but rubber items deteriorate with time, whether you drive or not. Brakes/cables seize,rust still, well, rusts,tyres get deteriorated,all while sitting still.
Whatever vehicle you drive,you pay to maintain,driven or not. May as well drive and enjoy.
Id buy any car with 90k on it as long as it has been maintained.
Not sure about that. Mine’s done 33k miles, it’s garaged and immaculate throughout. Quite modified too.Whatever vehicle you drive,you pay to maintain,driven or not. May as well drive and enjoy.
Id buy any car with 90k on it as long as it has been maintained.
Edited by fred bloggs on Wednesday 29th April 17:34
wormus said:
Not sure about that. Mine’s done 33k miles, it’s garaged and immaculate throughout. Quite modified too.
Quite modified??
You joker!Your car is so far removed from an average all original 33k miles Monaro its unreal.
I'd bet your (lovely) car has way less than 50% of its original parts, certainly mechanically. Engine, gearbox, suspension, brakes etc. etc. - none of it original 2005 CV8, hell even the wheels aren't original.
Lincsls1 said:
Quite modified?? You joker!
Your car is so far removed from an average all original 33k miles Monaro its unreal.
I'd bet your (lovely) car has way less than 50% of its original parts, certainly mechanically. Engine, gearbox, suspension, brakes etc. etc. - none of it original 2005 CV8, hell even the wheels aren't original.
Who knows, I might even drive it one day You joker!Your car is so far removed from an average all original 33k miles Monaro its unreal.
I'd bet your (lovely) car has way less than 50% of its original parts, certainly mechanically. Engine, gearbox, suspension, brakes etc. etc. - none of it original 2005 CV8, hell even the wheels aren't original.
Glyn84 said:
At 150k I found bushes, lower ball joints needed replacing, and goes without saying but the standard suspension was well past its best. Also had to replace the alternator, starter motor and AC idle bearing, plus gearbox output seal, diff input seal and prop centre bearing.
None of those would be unexpected on any car to be honest at that mileage, but it's easy to lose sight of that at the time when they all arrive within a year or two and your wallet takes a battering.
My VXR8 is nearly at 180k miles as well (highest in the UK?).None of those would be unexpected on any car to be honest at that mileage, but it's easy to lose sight of that at the time when they all arrive within a year or two and your wallet takes a battering.
I've needed to replace the alternator, starter motor, diff seal and prop centre bearing around or after the 150k mark as well.
Keep on top of the car as best as I can and people can't believe the mileage when I tell them.
9 years with it now and hope to keep it going for many more years and miles.
wormus said:
Not sure about that. Mine’s done 33k miles, it’s garaged and immaculate throughout. Quite modified too.
That's good. My point was you may have a car sat under a tree,next to a railway doing nothing for ten tears,it may be low miles,but you wouldnt want to buy it. Clearly your car is in the well maintained category.
Mine lives outside, it gets polished once a year at best, its on 135,000 but it is maintained,and has just enough mods to make it fun to drive, but I don't have to worry about parking in tescos or resale value or any of that. Its a driver.
Main things to check are rust,(sills,chassis legs) rear diff stops locking up, and gearbox are expensive so make sure they work well.
Edited by fred bloggs on Friday 1st May 13:52
Edited by fred bloggs on Friday 1st May 13:57
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