Ran out of oil. Is this terminal?
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Yes. I know. Check more frequently etc.
I noticed a rattle earlier coming off the motorway. Left the car an hour or so to cool and checked the stick. Nothing. Not a drop.
Added 2.5l of oil and it just touches minimum. The noise is still there though.
See video..
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=101565...
Is it terminal? Why would all the oil go without any warnings? There are no drips underneath.
Fed up with this car. Everything seems to be going wrong at once. What was supposed to be a keeper is turning into a rattly old nail I'm thinking of ditching.
I noticed a rattle earlier coming off the motorway. Left the car an hour or so to cool and checked the stick. Nothing. Not a drop.
Added 2.5l of oil and it just touches minimum. The noise is still there though.
See video..
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=101565...
Is it terminal? Why would all the oil go without any warnings? There are no drips underneath.
Fed up with this car. Everything seems to be going wrong at once. What was supposed to be a keeper is turning into a rattly old nail I'm thinking of ditching.
wormus said:
Not sure why you’d call it an old nail when it was you who forgot to maintain it correctly. These things do use a bit of oil but no worse than other engines and from what you are describing, I’d say it’s almost certainly knackered.
I'm referring to the rest of the car with that statement. It seems to have taken a turn for the worse in several areas over the last couple of months. Suppose I should have expected it with the mileage. I've heard worse...but driving with no oil will never end well.
It will almost always kill the engine....which is a shame. Checking the dipstick every week or so is free and only takes a few seconds.
You have the option of driving til it really dies, a replacement engine, or trying to have your own fixed. However the longer it runs like that...then worse the damage will be and the harder/more expensive any repair will be
And while these engines are very popular...that means used units still fetch and cost decent money.
There's no cheap fix to this.
It will almost always kill the engine....which is a shame. Checking the dipstick every week or so is free and only takes a few seconds.
You have the option of driving til it really dies, a replacement engine, or trying to have your own fixed. However the longer it runs like that...then worse the damage will be and the harder/more expensive any repair will be
And while these engines are very popular...that means used units still fetch and cost decent money.
There's no cheap fix to this.
Edited by stevieturbo on Monday 11th June 21:34
marksx said:
Suppose before rushing into a bottom end rebuild, I need to find where it is losing oil.
Easier said than done I suppose. Any suggestions on where to start/how to start.
If it’s leaking you will see it all over the bottom of the car and it usually makes it’s way onto the exhaust so you’ll smell it if it’s leaking. Far more likely is it burned it through the normal combustion process. They all use a little bit which is why you need to keep an eye on it every 500 miles or so.Easier said than done I suppose. Any suggestions on where to start/how to start.
monkfish1 said:
Doesn't sound good. Whats your oil pressure when hot at idle?
It was almost always around 3 on the gauge. Handily the gauge packed in last week too. (Insert facepalm) it now shoots to the top when ignition is switched on so I'm presuming dead sensor.
There are no significant leaks under the car. I've never noticed any smoke out of the back. Other than a hot oily smell at the same time as noticing the rattle, I have had no signs of oil loss.
Presumably the oil level on the dipstick would be an obvious sign of oil loss......if you were checking.
And oil pressure gauge may be a faulty sensor, it is common.....or it may have been an early warning to check things regardless.
But until it's apart to see what damage, you just wont know how much it will cost to repair.
And oil pressure gauge may be a faulty sensor, it is common.....or it may have been an early warning to check things regardless.
But until it's apart to see what damage, you just wont know how much it will cost to repair.
If that were my car I would park it up (probably for months in my case) and have a few beers, and yes I would shed a tear or two.
I would decide whether to rebuild the engine, either stock or maybe a stroker? or what about a crate motor?
As ever it all depends on whether you want to keep the car, or get rid of it, not to mention the time and the cost to get it back on the road, ( cost usually being the deciding factor )
I feel your pain....have another beer.
John
I would decide whether to rebuild the engine, either stock or maybe a stroker? or what about a crate motor?
As ever it all depends on whether you want to keep the car, or get rid of it, not to mention the time and the cost to get it back on the road, ( cost usually being the deciding factor )
I feel your pain....have another beer.
John
mfp4073 said:
If that were my car I would park it up (probably for months in my case) and have a few beers, and yes I would shed a tear or two.
I would decide whether to rebuild the engine, either stock or maybe a stroker? or what about a crate motor?
As ever it all depends on whether you want to keep the car, or get rid of it, not to mention the time and the cost to get it back on the road, ( cost usually being the deciding factor )
I feel your pain....have another beer.
John
Only this week did I decide to cut out the midweek drinking. I don't think that resolution will last.I would decide whether to rebuild the engine, either stock or maybe a stroker? or what about a crate motor?
As ever it all depends on whether you want to keep the car, or get rid of it, not to mention the time and the cost to get it back on the road, ( cost usually being the deciding factor )
I feel your pain....have another beer.
John
wormus said:
That’s your problem. I drink during the week and have never suffered a blown engine.
Oh....no....wait...
The thing about owning a Monaro is we all have developed a crazy sense of humour, mainly out of necessity......it's a defence mechanism......you are never alone with one of these cars that's for sure.Oh....no....wait...
So. Its dead. It hurts. I may have prevented it. Done.
My options.
1 - take it to a garage, get them to take it apart, assess and repair. Potential costs?
2 - source another engine and swap it out myself. Cost?
3 - removal, strip and repair myself. Slow. Parts may need to go for machining.
4 - a combination of the above, plus 'improvements'...
The big issue - the car is LPG converted. Any work would have to be compatible. (Unless I strip this system off - not insignificant, and a big bonus most of the time).
In terms of existing mods, it has a full wortec system and a remap. Claimed to be producing around 440.
My options.
1 - take it to a garage, get them to take it apart, assess and repair. Potential costs?
2 - source another engine and swap it out myself. Cost?
3 - removal, strip and repair myself. Slow. Parts may need to go for machining.
4 - a combination of the above, plus 'improvements'...
The big issue - the car is LPG converted. Any work would have to be compatible. (Unless I strip this system off - not insignificant, and a big bonus most of the time).
In terms of existing mods, it has a full wortec system and a remap. Claimed to be producing around 440.
marksx said:
So. Its dead. It hurts. I may have prevented it. Done.
My options.
1 - take it to a garage, get them to take it apart, assess and repair. Potential costs?
2 - source another engine and swap it out myself. Cost?
3 - removal, strip and repair myself. Slow. Parts may need to go for machining.
4 - a combination of the above, plus 'improvements'...
The big issue - the car is LPG converted. Any work would have to be compatible. (Unless I strip this system off - not insignificant, and a big bonus most of the time).
In terms of existing mods, it has a full wortec system and a remap. Claimed to be producing around 440.
1. Take it to a garage familiar with these engines. My options.
1 - take it to a garage, get them to take it apart, assess and repair. Potential costs?
2 - source another engine and swap it out myself. Cost?
3 - removal, strip and repair myself. Slow. Parts may need to go for machining.
4 - a combination of the above, plus 'improvements'...
The big issue - the car is LPG converted. Any work would have to be compatible. (Unless I strip this system off - not insignificant, and a big bonus most of the time).
In terms of existing mods, it has a full wortec system and a remap. Claimed to be producing around 440.
Whilst they are incredibly simple engines it does seem most garages are complete incompetent morons wouldnt trust to do an oil change, nevermind rebuild an engine
Parts...really depends. At least crank work, bearings, maybe oil pump, thorough cleaning of entire block/engine, possibly some new conrods.
Really best case for engine work itself are probably £1000-1500 range for a half sensible job. Then whatever labour to remove/refit etc.
2. Used engine, not so readily available in UK, but they do come up. Probably £1500-2000 for a bare used engine. But price will really depend on supply available.
3. Sort of follows No1 comments about abilities and competence.
4. If you make any real changes then you'd need to be sure your fuel system, both petrol and gas can cope with those and will need re-tuned to accommodate any changes so could add further substantial cost ( and risks )
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