MAF Wiring/Loom issue

MAF Wiring/Loom issue

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selym

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9,556 posts

177 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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I'm after a little advice. I was trying to fit my OTRCAI just now, but it appears the MAF lives in the intake beside the air filter box. Now I tried to relocate it but it seems to be wired into a loom with a plug on the N/S of the rad. Is there an easy way to free it so that it can be connected to the front of the throttle body? All advice most welcome! Monaro VXR LS2 btw.

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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selym said:
I'm after a little advice. I was trying to fit my OTRCAI just now, but it appears the MAF lives in the intake beside the air filter box. Now I tried to relocate it but it seems to be wired into a loom with a plug on the N/S of the rad. Is there an easy way to free it so that it can be connected to the front of the throttle body? All advice most welcome! Monaro VXR LS2 btw.
Go mafless!

(You'll need a re-tune though.)

selym

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177 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Done. I still need a loom extender ideally but we are there. Throttle pick up is instant and it does feel a little quicker, on first impressions.

mfp4073

1,976 posts

180 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Many years ago I removed the stock air box and filter on my CV8. I replaced it with a VCM induction kit from Monkfish. The air filter on this set up is located behind the headlight.
When I took the car out for its fist run I was amazed at the difference in sound from the standard exhaust. I was always a bit sceptical about these kits, but the amount of air the engine was sucking in to make that sound was as clear as day.
I suspect your unit will be a bit better with a direct ram air effect. Happy days......

John

selym

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177 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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I think so too John, it is a hoofing great filter!!

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

201 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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beer
selym said:


Done. I still need a loom extender ideally but we are there. Throttle pick up is instant and it does feel a little quicker, on first impressions.
beer

fred bloggs

1,342 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th October 2017
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Did you get a tune too ?

selym

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Thursday 26th October 2017
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fred bloggs said:
Did you get a tune too ?
Nope, just fit and forget!

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

201 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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selym said:
Nope, just fit and forget!
You cant do that? You have to fail the maf in the tune. I'm surprised you aren't getting MILS up?


Jader1973

4,244 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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MyM8V8 said:
selym said:
Nope, just fit and forget!
You cant do that? You have to fail the maf in the tune. I'm surprised you aren't getting MILS up?
I think he has fitted the MAF between the OTR and the engine intake. Not something I’ve seen done before. I suppose it makes it easy to go back to stock if needed.

selym

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Saturday 28th October 2017
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Jader1973 said:
I think he has fitted the MAF between the OTR and the engine intake. Not something I’ve seen done before. I suppose it makes it easy to go back to stock if needed.
The MAF is indeed just relocated between the filter and the throttle body. That was where the faff' in the job was; relocating the harness for the MAF.

Mud_

2,924 posts

162 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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It's not an ideal location for a MAF (should ideally have a few pipe diameters of plain straight pipe either side to smooth and distribute the flow), but if it works then who's to argue?

selym

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Saturday 28th October 2017
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Mud_ said:
It's not an ideal location for a MAF (should ideally have a few pipe diameters of plain straight pipe either side to smooth and distribute the flow), but if it works then who's to argue?
My only barometer is that it's not thrown any codes. Whether or not it's 'working' is another matter, and only mapping will ascertain that. It does feel a lot more responsive to throttle movement.

L2VXR

991 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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My duspeed otr came with both options of with or without maf and the loom kit to move the maf so if your struggling to find one maybe drop them a email

selym

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Saturday 28th October 2017
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L2VXR said:
My duspeed otr came with both options of with or without maf and the loom kit to move the maf so if your struggling to find one maybe drop them a email
Cheers. The XAIR can be used MAF less too. The instructions show how to move the harness, but unfortunately the lengths of cabling make it difficult.

Mud_

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162 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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selym said:
My only barometer is that it's not thrown any codes. Whether or not it's 'working' is another matter, and only mapping will ascertain that. It does feel a lot more responsive to throttle movement.
I ran the same configuration for a time - removing the MAF will make it more responsive again wink

selym

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Saturday 28th October 2017
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Mud_ said:
I ran the same configuration for a time - removing the MAF will make it more responsive again wink
Interesting! Very interesting!!

L2VXR

991 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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You can probably work out the duspeed loom splits the wire loom into two directions one going to the maf and the other to the air intake temp sensor (i thinkwobble)

selym

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177 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Seen. Your loom looks a lot more free and easy than mine!

Cheers.

selym

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Tuesday 31st October 2017
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Mud_ said:
It's not an ideal location for a MAF (should ideally have a few pipe diameters of plain straight pipe either side to smooth and distribute the flow), but if it works then who's to argue?
Ok, I'm starting to think the MAF position might be an issue. I am experiencing a bit of surge/judder on WOT at lower revs...around 2000 rpm. It feels a little like very subtle kangarooing. I've been doing a bit of googling and the usual suspects come up:
Leads and plugs - misfire
OTRCAI and MAF - position of MAF by throttle body.
One other thing is the crankcase breather pipe which leaves the OTRCAI and goes into the head. Could the fact that this isn't sealed into the filter housing be an issue, either this issue on a potential for the future?

Cheers.