HARROP Short Shifter - Monaro

[Superhans_]

Anyone have any experience this this one? Looking for a quick shift that is as good as the ripshifter, without the price, but also works with standard gearknob assembly.

https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/automotive-performa...

[vxr2010]

B and M are ok and cheaper

[JoyCV8]

I've been using a B&M one for a few years and it's a vast improvement over the standard shift .. gives quite a different feel than the rip shift though.

[Superhans_]

JoyCV8 said:

I've been using a B&M one for a few years and it's a vast improvement over the standard shift .. gives quite a different feel than the rip shift though.

Could you explain?

[Superhans_]

Just found this. Looks like a ripshifter but costs 80% less

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-Commodore-Short-...

[Mud_]

Superhans_ said:

Just found this. Looks like a ripshifter but costs 80% less

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-Commodore-Short-...

Looks like the CUBE shifter I have. The centring springs will be too weak to function properly and the limiting bolts a bit hard to adjust, but otherwise it's decent enough and works well (if you like a very narrow pattern).

[vxr2010]

i could not justify buying 2 ripshifters , i bought 2 b and m ones for the vy ute one for the monaro , a good price and so much better than before , i've not tried a ripshifter but i'm happy with the b and m and not that bad to fit

[Superhans_]

Mud_ said:

Looks like the CUBE shifter I have. The centring springs will be too weak to function properly and the limiting bolts a bit hard to adjust, but otherwise it's decent enough and works well (if you like a very narrow pattern).

The seller says he fits uprated springs to resolve that particular issue

[Mud_]

Superhans_ said:

The seller says he fits uprated springs to resolve that particular issue

Interesting...where does it say that? I fitted stiffer springs to mine, but it's a tricky balance getting the required stiffness and avoiding binding (I have a spring manufacturer down the road and tried everything remotely viable that they had). The design is an odd bit of spring abuse - they're loaded on one side of the coils only. Mine's better, but not 100%. I'd have removed the springs altogether, but they push on the trunnions to hold the ball joint together.

[Superhans_]

Mud_ said:

Interesting...where does it say that? I fitted stiffer springs to mine, but it's a tricky balance getting the required stiffness and avoiding binding (I have a spring manufacturer down the road and tried everything remotely viable that they had). The design is an odd bit of spring abuse - they're loaded on one side of the coils only. Mine's better, but not 100%. I'd have removed the springs altogether, but they push on the trunnions to hold the ball joint together.

I emailed him and he said he swaps the springs his supplier fits. I'll give it a whirl and report back.

[Mud_]

Superhans_ said:

I emailed him and he said he swaps the springs his supplier fits. I'll give it a whirl and report back.

Cool. Do yourself a favour and swap out the bolts that hold down the shifter for cap heads (makes it possible to swap the shifter in and out without lowering the gearbox). I also modified the white boot thing so it could be installed/removed from inside the car, but that's a messier operation as you want rivnuts in the holes in the trans tunnel, and then you've got an extra feature to seal against (so might need an intermediate gasket).

[stu vxr]

I have a ripshifter and can confirm it's absolute quality however although it certainly gives the gearbox a completely different feel am not certain it shifts faster than stock I think that is down to how focused you are in your driving.

I still struggle sometimes to get the right gear but it is a vast improvement on stock in the way it feels.

Which ever you choose you need to be sure it suits your driving style, I personally wouldn't base my choice on cost, this is of course only my opinion...

[Superhans_]

Mud_ said:

Cool. Do yourself a favour and swap out the bolts that hold down the shifter for cap heads (makes it possible to swap the shifter in and out without lowering the gearbox). I also modified the white boot thing so it could be installed/removed from inside the car, but that's a messier operation as you want rivnuts in the holes in the trans tunnel, and then you've got an extra feature to seal against (so might need an intermediate gasket).

Do you happen to know what size cap heads you used? Once I've got it apart I won't be messing around shopping around for bolts.

[Mud_]

Superhans_ said:

Do you happen to know what size cap heads you used? Once I've got it apart I won't be messing around shopping around for bolts.

My first thought was M8, and a quick google makes it sound like M8x1.25mm and something like 20mm long.

[Superhans_]

Mud_ said:

My first thought was M8, and a quick google makes it sound like M8x1.25mm and something like 20mm long.

Great cheers I'll pick some up

[Mud_]

I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but there's also the option of this bronze shifter cup: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CUBE-Speed-short-shifter...

[Superhans_]

I saw that, but I personally think a plastic would be better so at least one component can dampen vibration. Although the seller of the plastic one wanted £20 to ship. Ridiculous.

Out of curiosity, what state was yours when you removed it?

[Mud_]

Nothing wrong with the one I removed that I can remember.

My CUBE has no dampening jobby in the stick either, that wasn't available at the time.