LS1 cam to pass MOT plus mapping recommendation

LS1 cam to pass MOT plus mapping recommendation

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Buffy d

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613 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Hi all, I've got an auto' LS1 Camaro and am looking to get a cam for it. I've done lots of research regarding overlap and understand that around 0º or less is the safest way to go regarding passing an MOT, but wanted to run my two frontrunners past some people in the know. I've narrowed it down to two from Texas Speed, the 224R (224/224 .600"/.600") on a 112LSA, or the 228R (228/228 .600"/.600") on a 114LSA, both of which will give me an overlap of 0º. I like the idea of the 228R but I'm worried it might be cutting it a bit close on the emissions front? Any advice much appreciated. Also, if anyone has any suggestions regarding someone in the south east who could map the car for the cam, as well as some other mods I have lined up, that would be brilliant. Thanks guys smile

P.s. I know it's not a Vauxhall/Holden but I figured this forum would be the best/busiest place to go for LS1 knowledge smile

Phillphill

284 posts

152 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I fitted a cam recently, and to be honest I am really not fussed about the emissions.
I know its potentially not the best way to go, but none of my second or track cars have ever sat through an emissions test!

stevieturbo

17,472 posts

253 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Buffy d said:
Hi all, I've got an auto' LS1 Camaro and am looking to get a cam for it. I've done lots of research regarding overlap and understand that around 0º or less is the safest way to go regarding passing an MOT, but wanted to run my two frontrunners past some people in the know. I've narrowed it down to two from Texas Speed, the 224R (224/224 .600"/.600") on a 112LSA, or the 228R (228/228 .600"/.600") on a 114LSA, both of which will give me an overlap of 0º. I like the idea of the 228R but I'm worried it might be cutting it a bit close on the emissions front? Any advice much appreciated. Also, if anyone has any suggestions regarding someone in the south east who could map the car for the cam, as well as some other mods I have lined up, that would be brilliant. Thanks guys smile

P.s. I know it's not a Vauxhall/Holden but I figured this forum would be the best/busiest place to go for LS1 knowledge smile
As a US import...exactly what emissions levels do you need to meet for the test ?

ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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zero overlap in theory means both cams should be the same.
Though one will be more efficient at lower rpm than the other one due to valve events.
The lower duration in theory will have later exhaust and earlier intake etc.

Cats are going to be very important.

Buffy d

Original Poster:

613 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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ringram said:
zero overlap in theory means both cams should be the same.
Though one will be more efficient at lower rpm than the other one due to valve events.
The lower duration in theory will have later exhaust and earlier intake etc.

Cats are going to be very important.
Yeah, I'm thinking the 228R as I'm already running a 3.73 rear end and will be get getting a 3600 stall torque converter, so getting into the power band quickly shouldn't be a problem. In terms of cats I was thinking something along the lines of high-flow 200 cell ones, would they be ok?

ringram

14,700 posts

254 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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You want zero backpressure and maximum exhaust velocity, that is the correct answer.
What that means in terms of cat is for you to find out smile

112cfm per sq inch of exhaust and you need around 2.2cfm per bhp.

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/exhaust/0505phr-e...

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

201 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I used a 224-232 114 lsa and without cats, was a pass on emissions for an import. This was on a 6.0L motor. You are auto therefore will need a good remap for off idle. I originally had problems with stalling out (not very nice or safe) and quite a few goes to get the map right for that.

Not sure you would need such a big stall convertor using 3,73's?? Presumeably you have 4L60E?

Monaro5.7

7,334 posts

185 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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I have a 223/231 cam with 112 I think been that long since install. I also run 200 cell cats and I pass emissions every year.