Monaro for sale with no service history!!
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Hi Guys, first time poster here!
I've been looking to get in to the Monaro world for some time now but the right one hasn't come up at the right price... potentially until now!
There's currently an ad on PH's for a red £12k Monaro with no service history. It's got low mileage and needs attention to the front bumper- not sure whether this may have been something to do with a re-spray? The car is HPI checked and all seems fine.
The service history is obviously a big problem but I'd like to know what people think given the amount of knowledge and experience you all have.
Maybe someone even recognises it?
It'd obviously be a risk, but an independant inspection may highlight any major issues? Then I guess it'd be a swift trip to the fish...
Any opinion or advice would be appreciated.
Cheers.
I've been looking to get in to the Monaro world for some time now but the right one hasn't come up at the right price... potentially until now!
There's currently an ad on PH's for a red £12k Monaro with no service history. It's got low mileage and needs attention to the front bumper- not sure whether this may have been something to do with a re-spray? The car is HPI checked and all seems fine.
The service history is obviously a big problem but I'd like to know what people think given the amount of knowledge and experience you all have.
Maybe someone even recognises it?
It'd obviously be a risk, but an independant inspection may highlight any major issues? Then I guess it'd be a swift trip to the fish...
Any opinion or advice would be appreciated.
Cheers.
Personally, I would steer clear.
I dont think that price really reflects what your taking on. It would be very dificult to know how the car has been treated so far in its life, the fact no paper work has been retained, combined with poor paintwork, would suggest not great to me.
That poor care may come back to bite you, did the previous owners ever change the oil, or did they think 'I've only done a few miles yet, I'll leave it'? Did they warm it up properly? Did they slip the clutch and abuse the drive chain to show their mates mad skidz at every given chance? etc. etc.
There is no way to tell, and no external checks will be able to confirm that.
You also need to consider resale, many people will be put off by this, making it a tougher sale.
The way I see it, when ever you have work done, or buy parts, you get an invoice. Why would you throw that away? It costs nothing to put it in a draw for the future.
There are enough of these cars about that you can hang out for a nice one. Why not see what James at Elite has in stock? His cars are generally pretty top examples.
I dont think that price really reflects what your taking on. It would be very dificult to know how the car has been treated so far in its life, the fact no paper work has been retained, combined with poor paintwork, would suggest not great to me.
That poor care may come back to bite you, did the previous owners ever change the oil, or did they think 'I've only done a few miles yet, I'll leave it'? Did they warm it up properly? Did they slip the clutch and abuse the drive chain to show their mates mad skidz at every given chance? etc. etc.
There is no way to tell, and no external checks will be able to confirm that.
You also need to consider resale, many people will be put off by this, making it a tougher sale.
The way I see it, when ever you have work done, or buy parts, you get an invoice. Why would you throw that away? It costs nothing to put it in a draw for the future.
There are enough of these cars about that you can hang out for a nice one. Why not see what James at Elite has in stock? His cars are generally pretty top examples.
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its only 2 owner car so you would think it would haves some history or bills or at least chasable as both owners will be on the V5 unless its been misplaced !!!!! ask if they have checked. no reason why it would have chasable history where it was serviced
If its been well looked after then its upto you whether history is important. to me personally I think it is very important and don't buy any without proof of history, invoices are even better. Most of these are owned by enthusiasts and have folders thick of history
look on the DVLA / .GOV MOT history website - interesting reading
MOT in 2013 -
Reason(s) for failure:
Offside Front Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
Offside rear brake juddering severely (3.7.A.5b)
Parking brake lever has no reserve travel (3.1.6b)
Offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a)
Front Power steering pipe(s) or hose(s) leaking (2.3.3b)
Nearside Front Tyre has a bulge, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (4.1.D.1b)
Offside Front Tyre has a bulge, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (4.1.D.1b)
Nearside Front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)
Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
also in 2009 - advisory
Offside Steering rack damaged but serviceable (2.2.C.1d)
that would tell me its either not been cared for / serviced well or maybe not been used for sometime
it has missed some MOTs where its done little miles or been sorned
personally the car appears good value for the miles but the lask of FSH hits it hard it could come back and bite you at a later date and cost dearly. The car should have sold within 48 hrs if it was good example
I would advise not buying it unless you get it fully inspected and checked over. Personally I wouldn't buy it
Just remember that if when you want to sell it, the lack of any history for 10 years will always be negative point
Its your money and your decision, goodluck
its only 2 owner car so you would think it would haves some history or bills or at least chasable as both owners will be on the V5 unless its been misplaced !!!!! ask if they have checked. no reason why it would have chasable history where it was serviced
If its been well looked after then its upto you whether history is important. to me personally I think it is very important and don't buy any without proof of history, invoices are even better. Most of these are owned by enthusiasts and have folders thick of history
look on the DVLA / .GOV MOT history website - interesting reading
MOT in 2013 -
Reason(s) for failure:
Offside Front Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
Offside rear brake juddering severely (3.7.A.5b)
Parking brake lever has no reserve travel (3.1.6b)
Offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a)
Front Power steering pipe(s) or hose(s) leaking (2.3.3b)
Nearside Front Tyre has a bulge, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (4.1.D.1b)
Offside Front Tyre has a bulge, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (4.1.D.1b)
Nearside Front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Front brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Rear brake disc in such a condition that it is seriously weakened (3.5.1i)
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f)
Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
also in 2009 - advisory
Offside Steering rack damaged but serviceable (2.2.C.1d)
that would tell me its either not been cared for / serviced well or maybe not been used for sometime
it has missed some MOTs where its done little miles or been sorned
personally the car appears good value for the miles but the lask of FSH hits it hard it could come back and bite you at a later date and cost dearly. The car should have sold within 48 hrs if it was good example
I would advise not buying it unless you get it fully inspected and checked over. Personally I wouldn't buy it
Just remember that if when you want to sell it, the lack of any history for 10 years will always be negative point
Its your money and your decision, goodluck
Edited by preciousmetal on Friday 15th July 13:23
I think this car was bought at auction and came without the necessary service history etc. The garage has then put it through a service and MOT before selling.
I hadn't thought to look through the DVLA's website for history, very useful! It does seem like it hasn't really been too well cared for from this. I guess your opinions do confirm my suspicions.
It has an attractive price tag but as you say it will probably need a lot of work and should have already been snapped up. The last thing I want to do is eng up buying a lemon...
I hadn't thought to look through the DVLA's website for history, very useful! It does seem like it hasn't really been too well cared for from this. I guess your opinions do confirm my suspicions.
It has an attractive price tag but as you say it will probably need a lot of work and should have already been snapped up. The last thing I want to do is eng up buying a lemon...
Think you have convinced yourself, spend another £1000 on a good example
Monaros very rarely end up at auction, as they normally find a direct outlet beforehand. when they are at auction rarely there is a reason, no one else wanted it.
been there, done that once about 8 years ago, never again
Monaros very rarely end up at auction, as they normally find a direct outlet beforehand. when they are at auction rarely there is a reason, no one else wanted it.
been there, done that once about 8 years ago, never again
As others have said no service history puts a big risk on that one. Mine has a full documented service history and I have still had to spend in the region of £3k in the first year putting things right.
There is also a thread running on Facebook about this car and someone has mentioned about corrosion on the underside
There is also a thread running on Facebook about this car and someone has mentioned about corrosion on the underside
Shwa said:
I think this car was bought at auction and came without the necessary service history etc. The garage has then put it through a service and MOT before selling.
There is no good reason why these cars should be sent to the block for trading. Wait unitl you find something that has been cherished and pay a bit more. Should work out cheaper in the long run.My 2p.
ARAF said:
throwyourbike said:
Service history is important but I also know a lot of enthusiasts who do their own servicing.
You should be able to tell by the general condition though.
The MOT history gives a pointer towards how it's been kept. You should be able to tell by the general condition though.
A lot of them advisories are no longer available to the tester due to misuse.
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