Mps4

[chrisgixer]

Said to replace the much loved Mpss. Or at least be developed from it. So should be better.

Any experience of these Mps4 tyres on here...? Quite new so possibly not yet.

[mik_ok]

Only seem to be available in 17" and 18" at the moment.

clik

[jameshsv]

18 good for me

[thebraketester]

chrisgixer said:

Said to replace the much loved Mpss. Or at least be developed from it. So should be better.

Any experience of these Mps4 tyres on here...? Quite new so possibly not yet.

They are a replacement for the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 not the Super Sports.

[chrisgixer]

thebraketester said:

chrisgixer said:

Said to replace the much loved Mpss. Or at least be developed from it. So should be better.

Any experience of these Mps4 tyres on here...? Quite new so possibly not yet.

They are a replacement for the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 not the Super Sports.

Interesting. What's that info based on?

Below is quoted from an email conversation between myself and Jamie McWhir.... See below.


The Pilot Sport 4 is based upon a recent tyre, the Pilot Super Sport, which was built to cope with supercars as well as quick smaller cars, like M135i and small AMG's

So unlike the Pilot Sport 3 which was more of a hot hatchback tyre, I wouldn't worry about the capabilities of the Pilot Sport 4 on a quicker, heavier rear wheel drive car

I've driven them during testing, and they are a significant step over the tyre they replace.

If you've any further questions don't hesitate to give me a reply.


Regards

Jamie

Jamie McWhir
Customer Engineering Support Manager
Car, Van & 4x4 (UK & ROI)

[chrisgixer]

....although he doesn't say it's an actual replacement for anything, I suppose.


Point is, it should be better than the Mpss, going by the company line

[thebraketester]

"As for the fate of the much loved Pilot Super Sport? This tyre will continue to sit above the Pilot Sport 4, catering to those of us who want an even higher level of performance............."

The PS3 superseded the PS2. The PS2 was a good tyre in terms of grip. The PS3 was harder compound and not designed to be a performance tyre (some argued that because of this is wasn't really a replacement for the PS2). The PS4 has redressed this by being more performance orientated. The MPSS is still more of a performance tyre than PS4.

MPC2 > MPSS > PS4 > PS2 > PS3 purely looking at dry grip performance.

Edited by thebraketester on Tuesday 26th January 21:35

[chrisgixer]

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

[thebraketester]

chrisgixer said:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

Yep... thats where I quoted from.

[chrisgixer]

I know. Google is handy. ...isn't it (sigh...)


Anyway. Too early for hsv owners by the looks. Not to worry.

[thebraketester]

Still doesnt alter the facts. MPSS>PS4

[chrisgixer]

Any experience?


...at all...? Lol

[thebraketester]

LOL.

Im giving you the answer... if you dont want to listen then thats fine. Just because they are newer doesnt mean they are going to be better... they are aimed at different markets.

.... I am out.

[007 VXR]

These are NOT a replacement for MPSS

[007 VXR]

PS3 nolonger listed ps4 is and so is MPSS ....



Clue is here in the above email...



So unlike the Pilot Sport 3 which was more of a hot hatchback tyre, I wouldn't worry about the capabilities of the Pilot Sport 4 on a quicker, heavier rear wheel drive car

I've driven them during testing, and they are a significant step over the tyre they replace.

[ARAF]

chrisgixer said:

Any experience?


...at all...? Lol

Chris, I'm with you. Apparently (and this is also only from Jamie) the PS4 will entirely replace the MPSS and also the PS3. The MPSS was based on Le Mans technology, whereas the MP4 also takes cues from other disciplines whilst still taking advantage of the MPSS performance.

I've been speaking with technical departments of tyre manufacturers for a lot longer than the internet has been around, and have never been fed bullshyte by them. Reviews in magazines can be a different matter.

[007 VXR]

Have a look at there web page...

[M11 MFP]

Pilot sport cup II on mine now. Surprisingly good in all weathers, but probably care needed in heavy rain. Really good hot grip, and not dangerous when cold. Shallower tread, but broad blocks so may wear ok despite the much lower treadwear rating over mpss.

Some mounting issues. They are very tight and don't seat properly. Really need mounting, driving a few miles and then balancing.

Look great with the velvet-like sidewall decals.

[007 VXR]

thebraketester said:

chrisgixer said:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

Yep... thats where I quoted from.

re read this bit from the above review !!!!




As for the fate of the much loved Pilot Super Sport? This tyre will continue to sit above the Pilot Sport 4, catering to those of us who want an even higher level of performance in 19 inches and above.

Full Pilot Sport 4 Press Release

Edited by 007 VXR on Thursday 28th January 22:36

[007 VXR]

Also.... IF PS4 was to replace the MPSS. they would be 19 and 20" tyres first not 17 and 18" which are more for everyday cars, not high performance cars