Monaro not good in the wind

Monaro not good in the wind

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Sohlman

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590 posts

260 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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On my way to Manchester today. Just stopped at a services for a coffee.

It's very windy. Car is all over the road. My last car was so good in a cross wind you never really noticed. It's going to be a long slow journey. 140 miles to go.

Also weather warning for flooding and maybe even snow. Good job I put the winter boots on this afternoon.

BartW

1,693 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Maybe it's the wind and not the car!

Sohlman

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590 posts

260 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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I think it has a lot to do with the design age of the Monaro. For sure its not had wind tunnel testing for cross winds. Plus it was windy.

ARAF

20,759 posts

229 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Sohlman said:
I think it has a lot to do with the design age of the Monaro. For sure its not had wind tunnel testing for cross winds. Plus it was windy.
Could be the tyres, or it could be time for your suspension bushes to be renewed. smile

TVR8BLACK

1,405 posts

135 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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ARAF said:
Could be the tyres, or it could be time for your suspension bushes to be renewed. smile
It does have the arodynamics of the titanic

Tattooboy

7,946 posts

184 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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TVR8BLACK said:
ARAF said:
Could be the tyres, or it could be time for your suspension bushes to be renewed. smile
It does have the arodynamics of the titanic
What, a Manoro? Your probably still thinking of your R8 that failed to navigate a roundabout ?

M11 MFP

687 posts

199 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Araf is right. lt'll be suspension / steering related. Front and rear bushes, track rod ends, dampers, alignment, all things to improve.

The design is a low roofline coupe and it's fairly heavy, so it'll be resistant with the suspension sorted.

vxr2010

2,595 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Over inflate the tyres and it will improve , snow tyres tend to not handle as well unless in snow

IXLR8

2,025 posts

155 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Tattooboy said:
TVR8BLACK said:
ARAF said:
Could be the tyres, or it could be time for your suspension bushes to be renewed. smile
It does have the arodynamics of the titanic
What, a Manoro? Your probably still thinking of your R8 that failed to navigate a roundabout ?
rofl


Sohlman

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590 posts

260 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Tyres are vredstein inflated to 40psi on advice from sarge 4x4

Recently tracked by monkfish
New top mounts
Road response

It was windy, but in comparison to BMW e90 not in the same league


vxr2010

2,595 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Hi James could be tyre wall rating , but snow/ winter tyres work best in snow , they are not great for normal driving as I found out with mine , but in the snow they make loads of difference

stevieturbo

17,474 posts

253 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Sohlman said:
I think it has a lot to do with the design age of the Monaro. For sure its not had wind tunnel testing for cross winds. Plus it was windy.
Far more likely to be suspension/steering/tyre setup...or of course bad roads in conjunction with the weather.

The Monaro is a very aerodynamic car, and 40psi sounds pretty high ?

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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It could even be tyres.
Mine is solid at any speed in a crosswind.

dudleybloke

20,380 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Its f*cked.
I'll give you a tenner for it and count yourself lucky.

Sohlman

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590 posts

260 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Tyre pressure range 36-42psi for Monaro vxr on 245/35/19's.

Drove last winter at 36psi and felt quite squishy when weather warm. Around 7-12 degrees ie not optimal for winters. Much better and more planted going up by 4psi with temperature range of 1-10 degrees. Sarge 4x4 said it would and having taken his advice it has massively improved an already good tyre.

On wind it felt like the front of the car was being lifted up. Winds where big enough to move lorries a lane. It was very windy. My comment is more that in comparison to more modern cars they don't handle wind as well. I have always felt this, but this particular journey amplified this theorem.

My fathers e60 in Gail force winds just does not move off line. Nor does his 911 like the Monaro although this is more affected then the e60 and a 911 is one aerodynamic car.

The side of a Monaro is a large surface area and in very heavy cross winds I can confirm it moves around a lot.

the_ferret82

25,627 posts

190 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Xpuffin said:
It could even be tyres.
Mine is solid at any speed in a crosswind.
if any many is going to knwo about cross winds and understanding them its this one ^^^^^

but to echo him had mine out in some quite nasty cross winds as in libe in an area where its well know from them and never hand an issue with the monaro in them even up gail force ones.

vxr2010

2,595 posts

165 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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I have a few sets of snow tyres , the Monaro does not like them , but in the snow they are fantastic , I keep a set of rears in the boot as no need to have a spacer saver too , when it snows they go on , the Monaro with snows on is the same as my Subaru with out snow tyres so they do make a lot of difference , it's the one thing that works with the Monaro not that good tc , the only point I do advise if you want to Stop and just have rear snow tyres then brake very hard so rear brakes are on as much as they can be , snow tyres seem to have more flexible side walls plus wider tread patters so less contact patch that what Monaros don't like , it can be made better with higher pressure so I would expect tyres are the cuplrit even if it's a windy day

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

211 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Monaro VXRs (19in)are very, very sensitive to tyre choice. If it's loose at the front then you've there's a very good possibility the tyres( regardless how good they are) just don't suit the car.
There's a lot of history on here in past threads about this

mikeyb1987

2,358 posts

160 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Tattooboy said:
TVR8BLACK said:
ARAF said:
Could be the tyres, or it could be time for your suspension bushes to be renewed. smile
It does have the arodynamics of the titanic
What, a Manoro? Your probably still thinking of your R8 that failed to navigate a roundabout ?
Brilliant! laugh

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

211 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Sohlman said:
Tyre pressure range 36-42psi for Monaro vxr on 245/35/19's.
Up to 3 persons
Front 34psi
Rear 36psi

Full load (338kg)
Front 41psi
Rear 41psi




Deffo sounds like your tyres if you need them rock hard to stop them feeling squishey.
(Been through this myself)