Sticky first gear
Discussion
Hi , is it an all the time problem or just when it's cold ? If it's cold thats not that unusual , is the clutch fluid ok , if it's looking dirty it can help sucking the reservoir out with a syringe and pump the pedal a number of times and repeat this , are any other gears effected or just first , quite often with these boxes they can be difficult getting gears and still not be a problem , I assume no leaks from the gearbox some times an over fill on the gearbox can resolve things
vxr2010 said:
Hi , is it an all the time problem or just when it's cold ? If it's cold thats not that unusual , is the clutch fluid ok , if it's looking dirty it can help sucking the reservoir out with a syringe and pump the pedal a number of times and repeat this , are any other gears effected or just first , quite often with these boxes they can be difficult getting gears and still not be a problem , I assume no leaks from the gearbox some times an over fill on the gearbox can resolve things
It's not all the time, it catches me by surprise to be honest but I don't think temperature is a factor. I still run a stock LS2 clutch and I change my fluid all the time because it goes that murky black colour. To my knowledge it only appears to be 1st that has this problem. I've recently been under the car and I couldn't see any obvious leaks. I'm not sure why it does it. My cluthc bite is really high however, the bite is right at the very top.
monkfish1 said:
Possibly early signs of spigot bearing failure. Allows the input shaft to float around causing wear in the gearbox.
I'm sure you would agree the deluxe option of LS7 clutch + new slave + remote bleed + new spigot bearing is a nice one if you want to be pro-active about it...saves you get stranded if the LS2 clutch seems to be on the way out 
Mud_ said:
I'm sure you would agree the deluxe option of LS7 clutch + new slave + remote bleed + new spigot bearing is a nice one if you want to be pro-active about it...saves you get stranded if the LS2 clutch seems to be on the way out
If you haven't already - Get a Ripshifter in there whilst you're about it 
Mine does this too occasionally, slot it into second then back to first and it goes straight in, but you can feel something aligning itself as it goes.
Don't think it's the spigot bearing though, never had any problems selecting any other gear and there are no additional noises with the clutch depressed.
Don't think it's the spigot bearing though, never had any problems selecting any other gear and there are no additional noises with the clutch depressed.
I would think if it was the spigot then all gears would surely be effected , my thoughts are try the clutch fluid change, possibly change g box fluid , and definitely over fill the box by a bit and then see how things go , my spigot was siezed and it still did not cause any problems , I noticed both Monaro boxes were slightly notchy to second gear but both boxes still going strong , my thoughts are deal with a box problem when it's not working any more, rather than worry too much about it before , my r8 box is notchy and worse when it's cold , I think boxes are generally tough but agricultural
vxr2010 said:
I would think if it was the spigot then all gears would surely be effected , my thoughts are try the clutch fluid change, possibly change g box fluid , and definitely over fill the box by a bit and then see how things go , my spigot was siezed and it still did not cause any problems , I noticed both Monaro boxes were slightly notchy to second gear but both boxes still going strong , my thoughts are deal with a box problem when it's not working any more, rather than worry too much about it before , my r8 box is notchy and worse when it's cold , I think boxes are generally tough but agricultural
Allen has not replied yet if he has had the fluids changed ?Thanks for the replies. Like I said it's not a regular thing, I mean the gearbox is notchy when cold asy any gearbox is, I always drive the car like a granny until it's up to temperature and everything is nice and warm (usually 10 miles roughly). This problem is not there all the time but the high clutch bite got me thinking about it more and more. I think over the winter a little gearbox tlc might just help, LS7 clutch or the likes and some nice fresh fluid and bearing.
snowwolf said:
When was the last time the gearbox oil was changed?
Not in the time I've owned it but the previous owner had it done in Jan 2014 I believe, no evidence just his word. Based on that I'd say it's not been done, I'm sceptical that way :PI would get the gearbox over filled a bit it's done via reversing switch in the box , plus put in fresh clutch fluid , correct me if I'm wrong worn clutches have a low biting point and difficult to get all gears , and not a high biting point , g box fluid is not a big issue as far as having to change it , it's easy to change but I did mine around 50,000 miles and it was not worth doing as it was that clean , MF do an uprated fluid that is supposed to help any gearbox grind etc issues
Mine does it sometimes. Its done it since day one of owning it. I have already replaced the clutch, spigot bearing, clutch fluid and gearbox fluid. As everyone else has said, go into 2nd then back to first or double de-clutch it. Remember this gearbox was designed 20+ years ago so its never going to be amazing by today's standards!
vxr2010 said:
I just use the standard fluid you would hope Holden would know what is correct for the car lol
A lot is down to cost with the fluids they use when items come out the factory where the box was made, as long as it gets past the warranty period that's all that matters, oil quality has come a long way in the last 10 years and all Monaros are over 9 years old, if your going to the bother of changing oils it is always good policy to put in a much better oil, especially if you have increased the power of the engine which will put added stresses on all the other gear downwards.Also its worth bearing in mind that the gearbox has no filtration, so all them tiny flakes of metal are moving around the box all the time and little bearings like the spigot will start to fail first, the only thing that is stopping metal rubbing on metal is the thin film of oil between them, a more advanced oil has a more protective film than a not so good oil.
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