2004 Monaro - advice on removing radio/CD unit ?

2004 Monaro - advice on removing radio/CD unit ?

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

61 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Done 1000 miles in my Monaro so far, and enjoying it very much, but now it's time for some upgrades.

I want to replace the stereo system in the car. I've removed the head unit and now I need to remove the cradle that the head unit slots into. But the cradle is too big to come out on its own - the carbon-effect trim that surrounds it (and houses the climate control and cupholders) needs to be removed too. I've taken out various screws it's all free at the top, but something is holding it in place below the cupholders, where it seems to slot into the gearlever console carbon effect bits. In the pic you can see a line where the two bits meet. This is where it is being held. I guess the centre console side panels have to come off somehow, or the trim panel around the gearlever needs to come off, but I can't see any more screws and I don't want to start pulling things too hard and break any of the fixings. How is the trim removed? Any advice would be much appreciated.

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>>> Edited by GSE - Monaro V8 on Saturday 25th September 22:06

motomk

2,166 posts

251 months

Tuesday 15th June 2004
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Sadly I can only help with removing the centre console around the gear lever bit which you would need to remove to get the central dash out.
First off there is one retaining screw under the central dash, where the rubber insert is, in front of the gear stick.You may have to pull out the rubber insert to get to it. Store that somwhere safely and then the fun bit! You now have to pull up on the centre console top cover. ie the bit around the gear lever, the electric window switches etc. It is only held on with clips, but they are fairly strong clips so you need a bit of force! Work from the back towards the front.
Once this top cover of the centre console is off, I would hazard a guess, you will discover there are a number of screws holding the central dash fascia in, under the stereo area. You should then be able to get the fascia off and hopefully get better access to the stereo cradle.
Hope this helps, If it doesn't, I can raid the vast knowledge of the Aussie forum and they should know.

Good luck
motomk


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

61 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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Thanks motomk

I managed to remove the gearlever trim as you described, those clips are tight! Underneath it, at the front, there are two extra screws that hold the lower half of the upper dash section in place. I've removed the head unit frame, and now have access to the wiring.

As well as upgrading the head unit, I want to upgrade the speakers too. The Monaro brochure quotes ten speakers, but I only count six - two in the front doors, two in the rear passenger area, and two on the rear window shelf. Any idea where the other four are ??

uk hsv

1,692 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th June 2004
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There are only 8 as they count the dual cone ones in the doors as two speakers!!!

There should be two in the dash, one in each door, one behind each front seat and two in the rear shelf.

ian351c

2 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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GSE,

Any luck with that new stereo for your Monaro? I have a Pontiac GTO and am interested in doing something similar. However, I havent found any information on replacing the stock GTO radio. Apparently, no one in the States is even thinking about this kind of thing. I would really appreciate any pointers and pictures you have to offer regarding removing the old stereo, wiring, etc.

Thanks!

Ian

roger440

160 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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This is all covered in some detail on ls1.com.au. A search should bring up several threads.

ian351c

2 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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roger440,

Thanks for the info. I looked around ls1.com.au for a while today but found nothing specific to removing or replacing the Monaro stock radio. There is quite a lot of information there though. If only I knew which models of the Commodore have the same radio as the '04 Monaro....

I did find a cool source for wiring harnesses though: AERPRO International. But they don't have any listings for the Monaro either, just the Commodore. Any idea which harness would fit?

Thanks for the info.

Ian

roger440

160 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Unless i'm mistaken, the head unit is the same as any VY commodore/ute. the poverty models don't have 6 disc changers etc though.

There were a whole load of ramblings on Ls1.com.au re fitting preouts to the factory head unit, rather than replacing it. some chap over there does, but thats not a lot of use here.

I'd definitly have some fitted if i could find someone here that could do it.

Not a lot of use if u want RDS, satnav etc!

roger440

160 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Ahh, one thing i did forget, apparantly, according to some dude on ls1.com.au the pontiac version is delivered to the US with a blanking plate fitted to the head unit hole. ideal if you want to graft a standard din sized unit in there.

someone even posted the GM part no.

uk hsv

1,692 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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I sent one of the blanking plates to "DAVE52" as he is doing a audio upgrade on his Monaro.

How is it going "dave52"?

It is just a blanking plate and is not the same finish as the dash, but it would make a good template.

DAVE52

262 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th July 2004
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Hi.you all
Have been A.W.O.L. Got stuck in Cyprus due to biz
JUST got my car this afternoon!!!Will catch up whith
post's soon. Paul did you get my cheque O.K. ?

uk hsv

1,692 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th July 2004
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sure did I will buy you a beer with your change next time I am up north!!

By the way when will I be invited up north again "Jagsy"?

DAVE52

262 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th July 2004
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Thanks Paul.
Think my first goody will have to be this RIP/SHIFTER
wot's the script on getting one A.S.A.P.
Dave

jagsy

1,462 posts

258 months

Saturday 17th July 2004
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Paul
You are welcome any time -have you any plans?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

61 months

Saturday 31st July 2004
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ian351c said:
GSE,

Any luck with that new stereo for your Monaro? I have a Pontiac GTO and am interested in doing something similar. However, I havent found any information on replacing the stock GTO radio. Apparently, no one in the States is even thinking about this kind of thing. I would really appreciate any pointers and pictures you have to offer regarding removing the old stereo, wiring, etc.

Thanks!

Ian




No joy yet as I've been unable to find a suitable facia panel adaptor for the Monaro.

The power and speaker wiring to the head unit are all done via a standard car audio plug on the rear, so no problems there. However there are two aeiral leads that connect into the head unit for some reason. Is this a diversity antenna arrangement, or just good old AM/FM? The subwoofer amp input (fitted in the boot) is taken off of the head units rear speaker outputs, at speaker output level (i.e a bit crude!)

I bought a facia panel adaptor (I think it was for a Toyota) and tried to make it fit, but the problem is that the hole in which the Monaro head unit fits looks like double din size, but is actually slightly bigger, and slightly curved, horizontally and vertically. It sort of fitted but it looks awful! I temporarily fitted a Kenwood head unit to try out FM/RDS reception, but found that the reception was worse! Something to do with those aerial connections I think....

I've put everything back to normal for the time being, until I can find (or make) a facia panel adaptor. I like the idea of a DAB (digital)radio. Blaukpunkt do a single DIN size unit that come with a small roof mounted aeiral that does both the DAB & FM bands so if I fit one of those it might solve the aeiral problem too.


roger440 said:
Ahh, one thing i did forget, apparantly, according to some dude on ls1.com.au the pontiac version is delivered to the US with a blanking plate fitted to the head unit hole. ideal if you want to graft a standard din sized unit in there.

someone even posted the GM part no.



(from the "very very slow delivery time for the monaro" thread) :


motomk said:
Talk to ukhsv! There is a blanking plate for the stereo, although I haven't seen one fitted! It blanks out the whole panel so I guess you can put a hole in it and mount a single DIN item!



It sounds like this is just what I need! Anyone know the part number? ukhsv ?


>> Edited by GSE - Monaro V8 on Saturday 31st July 20:14

DAVE52

262 posts

250 months

Saturday 31st July 2004
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PAUL DID GET A BLANKING PLATE FOR ME BUT I HAVE NOT AS YET DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT.BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT CAN NOT BE USED AS TRIM.ONLY AS A TEMPLATE.I'LL GET THE PART No ON SUNDAY AND POST IT

uk hsv

1,692 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st August 2004
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As "Dave52" says it is a blanking plate use to fill the space the stereo occupies in a American GTO when it is shipped as they send them without radios fitted (security I think) the Plate costs about $15 + shipping but it is not finished to the same colour or standard as the cars trim, but again as "Dave52" says it is the correct size and shape to be used as a custom install.

The part number is 92096871 this will mean nothing to UK dealers as it is the Holden code, if you want one email me and I will put it on the next order or contact any Holden dealer (I use South City Holden in Melbourne 03-9627 3333)

The current trend in OZ is to tap into the stereo and produce your own pre outs to by pass the inbuilt amp, which will then give you the quality but this is no help on the Rds front.

DAVE52

262 posts

250 months

Sunday 1st August 2004
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I DID DO A TEMP FIT OF MY SAT/NAV BUT WITH THE SCREEN OUT I TOOK THE SKIN OF MY KNUCKLES.ONE RIPSHIFTER ON ORDER!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

61 months

Saturday 14th August 2004
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Heres what I need ..... the sat nav unit fitted below the standard stereo ..... is that double din? This is where the storage box/tray are fitted in the UK Monaro ......



>> Edited by GSE - Monaro V8 on Tuesday 17th August 10:50

DAVE52

262 posts

250 months

Saturday 14th August 2004
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CLOSE BUT WHERE DOES THE HEAD UNIT GO?
5.4"SAT/NAV SCREEN. EX CAPPA