2nd Hand Ghibli

2nd Hand Ghibli

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wfo123

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58 posts

155 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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Hi all,

I'm thinking of buying a used Ghibli.

There are a few nice looking 3.0 diesels around for £21K to £22K that look interesting. I'm expecting to hold onto it for approx 3 years where I fully expect the price to drop to nearer 15K. Based on my high level calculations this is still way better than off than paying £2K to £3K deposit on a boring lease vehicle at approx £350 p/m, and I'll have much more fun!

We'd use it as the main family car for longer journeys (we're going electric for the school run, shorter trips etc).

Am I mad PHers?

67Dino

3,630 posts

112 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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Don’t think you’re mad at all. People always suck in their teeth when they hear you drive a Ferrari or Maserati, but the reality is if you buy well, the (admittedly high) servicing costs are often the same or less than the depreciation on a more standard marque. Plus you have a much more unique and enjoyable car in the meantime.

I bought my petrol Ghibli at the start of the year and am loving it. Fast, comfortable, beautiful, rare.... pleased with it. I test drove the diesel at the time too and was impressed, but be aware these may depreciate faster due to both prestige and environmental/tax considerations. Also do budget for high servicing costs (the engines are built in the same factory as the Ferrari 488 engines, so probably not cheap to maintain).

Other than that, think it’s a great buy.

craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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Friend of mine bought a petrol non-S 2016. There is an update in 2016 so if your budget is making that year available try and get the updated car. The only real issue he has had with the car is that the vast majority of the kit you expect on a modern car of that size and class these days is optional so he has things missing that you would just expect it to have.

TR4man

5,319 posts

181 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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I was so excited to notice your thread title - but then realised you weren't referring the the late 1960s original!! smile

67Dino

3,630 posts

112 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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TR4man said:
I was so excited to notice your thread title - but then realised you weren't referring the the late 1960s original!! smile
Could have been worse. Could have been buying a 1990s one...
smile

wfo123

Original Poster:

58 posts

155 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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67Dino said:
TR4man said:
I was so excited to notice your thread title - but then realised you weren't referring the the late 1960s original!! smile
Could have been worse. Could have been buying a 1990s one...
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Ha - if only (1960s one that is!). Thanks all for your comments so far, all very useful. Petrol vs Diesel makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately a decent one looks to be just out of my budget...

Out of interest, what are the typical servicing costs? £300 - £400? Annual intervals? Anything major I should look out for (assuming I'm going Diesel with '14 or '15 model up to 40K miles on the clock)?

67Dino

3,630 posts

112 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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wfo123 said:
Out of interest, what are the typical servicing costs? £300 - £400? Annual intervals? Anything major I should look out for (assuming I'm going Diesel with '14 or '15 model up to 40K miles on the clock)?
Not had a service myself yet, but tyres alone can be £3-400 pa. May be others better able to comment from experience though.

Daveb257

1,010 posts

146 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Out of interest, what are the typical servicing costs? £300 - £400? Annual intervals? Anything major I should look out for (assuming I'm going Diesel with '14 or '15 model up to 40K miles on the clock)?

Intervals (diesel) are:
12 months, 12500 miles
Adblu will last 4500-6500 miles between tanks
Dealer servicing is usually >£700 or >£900 dependant on if a small/large one & please bear in mind there are very few indies who can reset service counter & oil life countdown- old oil (according to car) means no DPF regen and it’s a massive PITA

alabbasi

2,697 posts

94 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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They make Maserati diesels?

Daveb257

1,010 posts

146 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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alabbasi said:
They make Maserati diesels?
Only for 5 years or so

greysquirrel

333 posts

176 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Daveb257 said:
Out of interest, what are the typical servicing costs? £300 - £400? Annual intervals? Anything major I should look out for (assuming I'm going Diesel with '14 or '15 model up to 40K miles on the clock)?

Intervals (diesel) are:
12 months, 12500 miles
Adblu will last 4500-6500 miles between tanks
Dealer servicing is usually >£700 or >£900 dependant on if a small/large one & please bear in mind there are very few indies who can reset service counter & oil life countdown- old oil (according to car) means no DPF regen and it’s a massive PITA
Indy is probably £600 for a service. The filters alone are about £200+ if you buy them in a maserati box. Service at a main dealer £1k+ (HR Owen and Dick Lovett have the prices on their website).

I am in the process of changing the front discs and pads and even buying the parts myself this is a £700 job, £1,100 at the dealer.

Tyres are £250 a corner.

The diesel engine isn't assembled by Ferrari.

Edited by greysquirrel on Monday 7th January 22:46

sconzo

123 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Very interested in keeping an eye on this thread as I too am in the market for a used Ghibli.

I'm still undecided on which model to go for, but as 67Dino says, the petrol ones seem to hold their values better due to the saturation of diesels introduced via the lease market.

It'll mainly be for my wife to use as we're expecting our first baby in May. Looking at one on Saturday mainly to check the boot's suitable for prams etc.

For me, diamond-cut Urano wheels are a must and I'd ideally want the aluminium paddles, Sabbia leather and a sunroof but realise I'll need to be flexible. If I can stretch to a later car with the updated touch screen and controls, great, but if I'm going petrol, it's unlikely.


greysquirrel

333 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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The boot opening isn't the widest but there is certainly plenty of space in the boot (my wife is due next month and it will be used for the kid)

The petrol will always be worth more but it depends on what you will use it for. All models in the US are petrol as they can afford it. The petrol does 15mpg to the 40mpg+ from the diesel. That's a big difference.

You can add the pedals for £200 so i wouldn't be too worried about that.

67Dino

3,630 posts

112 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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greysquirrel said:
The boot opening isn't the widest but there is certainly plenty of space in the boot (my wife is due next month and it will be used for the kid)

The petrol will always be worth more but it depends on what you will use it for. All models in the US are petrol as they can afford it. The petrol does 15mpg to the 40mpg+ from the diesel. That's a big difference.

You can add the pedals for £200 so i wouldn't be too worried about that.
I’m getting around 26mpg out of my Petrol Ghibli. Tends to be near 30mpg on the motorway and nearer 22mpg around town. Definitely not as good as the Diesel, but have had worse.

Daveb257

1,010 posts

146 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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greysquirrel said:
The boot opening isn't the widest but there is certainly plenty of space in the boot (my wife is due next month and it will be used for the kid)

The petrol will always be worth more but it depends on what you will use it for. All models in the US are petrol as they can afford it. The petrol does 15mpg to the 40mpg+ from the diesel. That's a big difference.

You can add the pedals for £200 so i wouldn't be too worried about that.
Gear shift Paddles aren’t a £200 job, £250 or so on a new car as a factory option but much much more to fit properly later, new column, loom, software

greysquirrel

333 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Daveb257 said:
Gear shift Paddles aren’t a £200 job, £250 or so on a new car as a factory option but much much more to fit properly later, new column, loom, software
sorry, i read that as pedals! if the wiring is there then the paddles are a fairly easy retro-fit (save for dealing with the air bag). IIR there is a certain pack that means you can add paddles. It was discussed on the ghibli forum recently.

Mid 20's out of a petrol is pretty good. You can't beat the noise of the petrol.

MoonMonkey

119 posts

134 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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greysquirrel said:
The boot opening isn't the widest but there is certainly plenty of space in the boot (my wife is due next month and it will be used for the kid).
Is it legal to put babies in the boot? wink

greysquirrel

333 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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yeah, i even bought the rubber mat so it is easier to hose down. Plus, the luggage straps are cheaper than a car seat.

Mattjevans

234 posts

99 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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My mate had a Ghibli deisel on lease. It was a dull, dull car.

Driving a GranTurismo myself, I convinced him to get the petrol when he decided to buy. Much nicer engine but to be honest at 22k I think there are probably more interesting but still sensible family cars to look at.