Renault V6 Engine / Auto Box
Discussion
Superb - you know your Renaults - what's your job?
So if I were to replace the box on the above Espace, what are my options for donor cars (auto and manual). Similarly if I discover I need a new head (hopefully just the gasket) are there cars with the same head also? From what I have discovered so far, I think the Ren 25 is my best option as a cheap donor.
Much appreciated,
Robert.
So if I were to replace the box on the above Espace, what are my options for donor cars (auto and manual). Similarly if I discover I need a new head (hopefully just the gasket) are there cars with the same head also? From what I have discovered so far, I think the Ren 25 is my best option as a cheap donor.
Much appreciated,
Robert.
My job?
If i tell you then i'll have to kill you
I,m an RTE (renault technical expert) in a dealer in se london. I do all the diagnosis and fault finding plus loads of other crap, done it now for around 25 years, reckon i deserve a medal or something!!!
Either find a 25 v6, turbo maybe would be fun, or a bent espace would be easiest.
Cheers
Dave
>> Edited by my 350i on Thursday 8th January 10:11
If i tell you then i'll have to kill you
I,m an RTE (renault technical expert) in a dealer in se london. I do all the diagnosis and fault finding plus loads of other crap, done it now for around 25 years, reckon i deserve a medal or something!!!
Either find a 25 v6, turbo maybe would be fun, or a bent espace would be easiest.
Cheers
Dave
>> Edited by my 350i on Thursday 8th January 10:11
Thank you again. Can I just clarify my options with you? I really appreciate the information.
A bent Espace would be easiest but the breakers seem to want mega-bucks for the parts. I'm hoping to find a Ren 25 donor. There seem to be a number of Ren25 V6. The obvious one is the Baccara (2849cc which is the same as the Espace). There is also a 2664cc and a 2458cc+turbo versions.
Would a box from any version suffice?
Would an engine from any version suffice?
If just replacing a cylinder head, which would be suitable.
Oh and given the option between death and looking at my Espace, it's a close run choice
A bent Espace would be easiest but the breakers seem to want mega-bucks for the parts. I'm hoping to find a Ren 25 donor. There seem to be a number of Ren25 V6. The obvious one is the Baccara (2849cc which is the same as the Espace). There is also a 2664cc and a 2458cc+turbo versions.
Would a box from any version suffice?
Would an engine from any version suffice?
If just replacing a cylinder head, which would be suitable.
Oh and given the option between death and looking at my Espace, it's a close run choice
my 350i said:
My job?
If i tell you then i'll have to kill you
My dad has a 25 auto, despite my tellng him not to buy it. Ironically, everything I read said that the box was OK, it was the electronics that packs up. In his case the electronics were fine, the box failed. Twice.
A decade ago I had a 25 GTX (the 2.2 and IMHO the best engine option for the 25), hankered after a V6 but now they're too long in the tooth for my liking... although there are two cars locally that are owned by retired guys who only ever seem to take their wives 500 yards to the shops. Both are garaged and immaculate (the cars, not the wives
).
From memory there were so many combinations of driveshaft length, coupling and splines, plus brakes, that you'd hardly ever find the right bits in a breakers. When I needed a driveshaft, I went to the motor factors with the old one, and they STILL got me the wrong replacement...
On my GTX, there was an intermittent fault that killed the speedo, fuel computer and the cruise (I pulled the cruise out of a scrapped V6). After several forays behind the dash, I eventually resoldered the entire instrument electrics and the problem never recurred in my ownership.
I sold the car to a guy from Carlisle: a month later the Police turned up demanding satisfaction: apparently the car was involved in 'a serious incident' in Penrith, so I was more than happy to grass up the twat, who obviously hadn't registered it in his name...
I've always though it odd that he came 120 miles to buy a car that at the time was as common as muck...
Otherwise fond memories; it was the car I first got to honk across France in: a job for which it was eminently suited... a 3-piece suite on wheels.
Fancied an Espace on and off, but never found one at the right price (or in the right condition - god there are some sheds out there!).
Ian
A decade ago I had a 25 GTX (the 2.2 and IMHO the best engine option for the 25), hankered after a V6 but now they're too long in the tooth for my liking... although there are two cars locally that are owned by retired guys who only ever seem to take their wives 500 yards to the shops. Both are garaged and immaculate (the cars, not the wives
). From memory there were so many combinations of driveshaft length, coupling and splines, plus brakes, that you'd hardly ever find the right bits in a breakers. When I needed a driveshaft, I went to the motor factors with the old one, and they STILL got me the wrong replacement...
On my GTX, there was an intermittent fault that killed the speedo, fuel computer and the cruise (I pulled the cruise out of a scrapped V6). After several forays behind the dash, I eventually resoldered the entire instrument electrics and the problem never recurred in my ownership.
I sold the car to a guy from Carlisle: a month later the Police turned up demanding satisfaction: apparently the car was involved in 'a serious incident' in Penrith, so I was more than happy to grass up the twat, who obviously hadn't registered it in his name...
I've always though it odd that he came 120 miles to buy a car that at the time was as common as muck...
Otherwise fond memories; it was the car I first got to honk across France in: a job for which it was eminently suited... a 3-piece suite on wheels.
Fancied an Espace on and off, but never found one at the right price (or in the right condition - god there are some sheds out there!).
Ian
Go for the Baccara or any late 25 v6, the 2664cc Z7V engine uses Bosch k-jetronic injection, not suited to Espace wiring and control systems. All the later versions of v6 used the Z7W engine with Renix electronic injection. Gearbox can come from any of the v6 versions, go for the 2.9 if possible though, but head will need to be Z7W 2.9. Power steering pump, alternator and air con units and mounting brackets are different but should swap over without problems.
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