Gasoline

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MiLotus

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36 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th August 2003
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I have read a few articles about different ROM grades of gasoline and how lower octane fuels run cooler, and may provide just as much horsepower as high octane fuels. Would the real experts here speak there opinion? Thanks. J

deltaf

6,806 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th August 2003
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The octane rating of a fuel indicates its resistance to detonation. The higher the number (98 is better then 95 for eg), then the more ignition advance you can run, (within reason) gaining power along the way.
If the ignition advance characteristics are left alone and octane is lowered, all that will happen is that detonation will occur at that point. I dont see how itll run cooler...:scratcchin:
The only ways to get cooler running are IIRC, cooler denser charge, different thermostats, oil coolers.
From what i remember, the theoretical best temp for power is 85 deg(c) coolant, but it conflicts with the oils best power producing temp of 92-95 deg (c).
Hope this helps...


>> Edited by deltaf on Sunday 17th August 18:44

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

262 months

Monday 18th August 2003
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The real power gains from a higher CR come from being able to run a higher CR. More advance does not necessarily give more power.

The cooler running issue stems from the fact that high octane petrol actualy burns slower than the cheap stuff, requiring more igntion advance and potentialy increasing the engine temperature. This is the reason that sticking high ocatne fuel in an engine designed to run on the floorsweepings is unlikely to net any significant gains.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

268 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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Yes, but being able to run more advance means you can run at higher revs = more power

annodomini2

6,913 posts

258 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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assuming the engine can handle those higher revs and the cam profile etc is up to the job

MGBV8

160 posts

263 months

Monday 25th August 2003
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From what i remember, the theoretical best temp for power is 85 deg(c) coolant, but it conflicts with the oils best power producing temp of 92-95 deg (c).

With the A sries engine - David Vizard reckoned 70C was best for BHP, any information on other engines?

Also assume diff oils will have diff temp ranges.

Also when an engine is about to go and high temps experienced it seams to produce more power, is it wortwhile running engine at as high temp possible, whilst keeping inlet side as cool as possible?

Paul