GM 4L60E 4 speed autobox for the LS1 V8 engine?

GM 4L60E 4 speed autobox for the LS1 V8 engine?

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st james

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20 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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Hi there,

Is anybody selling a GM 4L60E autobox for a 1999/2000 Pontiac firebird or Camaro (5.7 LS1 V8 engine) or knows of any good American car breakers here in the UK that may have one?

Thanks

stevieturbo

17,454 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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Ive seen a buy selling a couple on ebay, here in the UK.

If looking a US source, go to LS1Tech.com, and perhaps someone can reccomend a supplier.

Or contact Mike ( Boosted LS1 ) off this site, and he might be able to help.

eliot

11,692 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st June 2006
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Have you broken yours? - Dont tell me, lost 3rd and 4th....

Uk Robert

46 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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I`ve got a year 2000 4L60E box complete with T/C, with 68000 miles on it on my garage floor. Replaced it with a manual box. I`m in Norfolk. Interested!?

eliot

11,692 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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I'll give you 50 quid for it.

Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

265 months

Friday 2nd June 2006
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eliot said:
I'll give you 50 quid for it.


I'll give him 60

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eliot

11,692 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:
eliot said:
I'll give you 50 quid for it.


I'll give him 60

Boosted

Fair enough!, I guess I've got enough boxes right now:


Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

265 months

Saturday 3rd June 2006
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Damn, foiled again. I haven't got £60

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st james

Original Poster:

20 posts

224 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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eliot said:
Have you broken yours? - Dont tell me, lost 3rd and 4th....


Hi, no i don't have a gearbox at all just a complete LS1 pull out engine with everything still attached to it. Was thinking of the manual T56 box but it's going into an immaculate SD1 VDP EFi, so i thought i'd keep it the same spec i.e. automatic.

Does the 4L60E have an issue with 3rd and 4th gears?

By the way what do these gearboxes shift like, are they as smooth as say the old electronic ZF4HP24?

stevieturbo

17,454 posts

252 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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What ecu are you using ??

Dont forget these autos are controlled by the ecu, and if you purchased from a manual car, the ecu may need programmed with the auto info for the box. ( or it may already contain this, not too sure. )
Ask over on the Holden forum about that, or indeed LS1Tech.com

Boosted LS1

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Sunday 4th June 2006
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stevieturbo said:
What ecu are you using ??

Dont forget these autos are controlled by the ecu, and if you purchased from a manual car, the ecu may need programmed with the auto info for the box. ( or it may already contain this, not too sure. )
Ask over on the Holden forum about that, or indeed LS1Tech.com


Evening Stevie

I think you can buy stand alone ecu's for the 4l60 which allow mappable shift points and firmness. This may be an option?

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eliot

11,692 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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Yes, there are several aftermarket controllers for that box, although I would say your first port of call should be the factory setup. Ive got the details of others if your'e interested. Or you could fit a 700r4, which is the non electronic version of the 4l60e

Cant comment about the oem shift feel, as A)never driven the electronic one B)never driven the non electronic one in its stock form. Essentially you can have it however you like, If you want it smooth - just leave it as OEM spec.

3-4 clutch is weak in these, although it should stand up ok behind a stock LS1. There's plenty of aftermarket upgrades for these, I think I may of found the best combo after killing several.

Boosted LS1

21,198 posts

265 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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Good info Eliot! Do you know if a transbrake conversion has been fitted to the 4l60/80? Is it even possible? Reason I wonder is I like the idea of a transbrake but I'd also like a box with overdrive.

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stevieturbo

17,454 posts

252 months

Sunday 4th June 2006
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What about the new GM 6 speed Mike ?? I think its already out there in some cars ?

Boosted LS1

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Monday 5th June 2006
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stevieturbo said:
What about the new GM 6 speed Mike ?? I think its already out there in some cars ?


You mean the 6L80E? I don't know much about it but it would be of interest to me if it turns out to be strong.

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st james

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224 months

Monday 5th June 2006
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Hi, i wouldn't mind the new GM 6 speed auto box but the dam thing runs on a CAN system like what Merc and ZF have been using for years. I spoke to a gearbox designer from Jaguar USA whom politely pointed out that this or any other auto box that runs on CAN won't work properly unless the original factory engine setup i.e. (engine/gearbox/loom/ecu from the new Corvette was used)

I think someone mentioned that an electronics engineer did couple a 5spd ZF auto box to an LS1 engine, but could never get it to work properly because ZF wouldn't supply the information he need.


Boosted LS1

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265 months

Monday 5th June 2006
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st james said:
Hi, i wouldn't mind the new GM 6 speed auto box but the dam thing runs on a CAN system like what Merc and ZF have been using for years. I spoke to a gearbox designer from Jaguar USA whom politely pointed out that this or any other auto box that runs on CAN won't work properly unless the original factory engine setup i.e. (engine/gearbox/loom/ecu from the new Corvette was used)



It's being worked around as we speak so there may be a solution in a while. This looks like a very strong box but I think the shift will be slow.

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st james

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Monday 5th June 2006
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Uk Robert said:
I`ve got a year 2000 4L60E box complete with T/C, with 68000 miles on it on my garage floor. Replaced it with a manual box. I`m in Norfolk. Interested!?


Hi UK Robert,

If you didn't receive my email, how much are you asking for the 4L60e box?

Thanks

slinky

15,704 posts

254 months

Monday 5th June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:
Good info Eliot! Do you know if a transbrake conversion has been fitted to the 4l60/80? Is it even possible? Reason I wonder is I like the idea of a transbrake but I'd also like a box with overdrive.

Boosted.


You're transbrake obsessed now Mike!!

Next time you're anywhere near our car, we'll try to show you a warm up with the transbrake test.

slinky
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st james

Original Poster:

20 posts

224 months

Monday 5th June 2006
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Boosted LS1 said:
st james said:
Hi, i wouldn't mind the new GM 6 speed auto box but the dam thing runs on a CAN system like what Merc and ZF have been using for years. I spoke to a gearbox designer from Jaguar USA whom politely pointed out that this or any other auto box that runs on CAN won't work properly unless the original factory engine setup i.e. (engine/gearbox/loom/ecu from the new Corvette was used)



It's being worked around as we speak so there may be a solution in a while. This looks like a very strong box but I think the shift will be slow.

Boosted.


Thanks for the help Mike, when you do hear of a solution i'd be grateful if you would let me know please. In the mean time i'll stick with a 4L60e that's if i can find one