Remote Mounted Fuel Regulator (RV8 Hotwire)

Remote Mounted Fuel Regulator (RV8 Hotwire)

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chassis 33

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6,194 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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Has anyone modified a hotwire fuel rail to allow a remote fuel regulator to be fitted? Im in the process of replacing the regulator and want to move it to somewhere more accessible.

Regards
Iain

GreenV8S

30,407 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th May 2006
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I've got an Omex remote regulator on mine, but it's a non-standard rail with JIC fittings both ends which I'm using with barbed hose adaptors. As you know the standard rail is designed to have a regulator pushed in the end with O ring seals, and I don't know how you'd adapt that to take a hose. I expect Mark Adams would know whether it could be done, or you could take the rail along to your local hydraulic specialist and see what they can suggest? Once you have a hose connected, obviously the rest is easy.

Edited to add: if you're determined, you could always cut the end of the rail off and get a JIC fitting welded on the end, just make sure you get the welding pressure tested afterwards.

>> Edited by GreenV8S on Thursday 4th May 23:44

gog

284 posts

259 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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FSE power boost valve, regulator kit comes complete with an adapter which bolts straight on.

chassis 33

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6,194 posts

287 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Hmmm, interesting, pity I'm scared to use the FSE regulator after seeing a number of them fail last year.

Regards
Iain

GreenV8S

30,407 posts

289 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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I've got similar views on the FSE regulator, but if they come with an adaptor maybe it would be possible to get the adaptor separately, or perhaps buy one from a disillusioned former FSE user?

Has anyone seen the adaptor, what is it like?

chassis 33

Original Poster:

6,194 posts

287 months

Saturday 6th May 2006
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Bit the bullet and bought the FSE kit today, and the pressure gauge kit to set it up. everything seems nice and spangly.

Turned the fuel pump on and fuel pisses up the side of the thread for the gauge, does the same with the blanking plug. So will be returning that to my friends at DT on Monday. Not having much luch with kit from there recently, had a sandwich plate split a few weeks back where the oil lines screwed in.

I guess time will tell on the regulator. Still I kno what it's been set to and I can always check it periodically to make sure it's still behaving.

The adaptor is basically a spigot like on the standard regulator that goes into a union with an 8mm standpipe connection coming of the main body of the adaptor at 90deg, and a flange to bolt it all up. Nothing special.

Regards
Iain

mongoose

4,360 posts

260 months

Sunday 7th May 2006
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Ian,could you tell me what the part no. of the one you ordered was please?.I've found three different 'end of rail" type fitting ones,and dont know which one our cars use

chassis 33

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Sunday 7th May 2006
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I will do, but at present my DT catalogue is in the Discovery, with the box it all came with and I can't find the Disco keys, nor my wallet which will have the receipt in.

Looking at other websites I think it's VK-384-12-H, but let me check before you rush out to buy one!!!

Regards
Iain

stevieturbo

17,454 posts

252 months

Sunday 7th May 2006
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I made an adaptor out of a-6 bulkhead bitting, machined down to slip inside the fuel rail, with an o-ring groove, much like the OE regulator does.

Wasnt the prettiest, but it could ahve been tidied up if need be.

wedg1e

26,843 posts

270 months

Sunday 7th May 2006
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chassis 33 said:
Turned the fuel pump on and fuel pisses up the side of the thread for the gauge, does the same with the blanking plug.
Regards
Iain


Wouldn't be a parallel/ tapered thread fitting mismatch, would it?

chassis 33

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287 months

Sunday 7th May 2006
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Ian, I hope not seeing as theyre all parts that came in the same plastic bag!!!

The part number for the FSE "Power Boost" Valve fuel pressure regulator is VK38412H for the hotwire engines.

Regards
Iain

mongoose

4,360 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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chassis 33 said:
Ian, I hope not seeing as theyre all parts that came in the same plastic bag!!!

The part number for the FSE "Power Boost" Valve fuel pressure regulator is VK38412H for the hotwire engines.

Regards
Iain
Cheers Ian,thanks very much

chassis 33

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287 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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No worries, just make sure you don't do what monkey boy who adjusted mine on a rolling road did and pump the pressure up so high with the engine not running it locked hte pump out, well in advance of 60psi. TW4T. Only noticed becasue on the racer I usually switch off by killing the switching off the fuel pump, so that i dont end up flooding the engine, then switch off the ignition a moment later once the engine has stopped, except the engine ran on for 10seconds or so with no pump...

...hence the question on the Chimaera forum, any idea what damage this may of caused to the injectors? I've now dropped it to 41psi at idle which drops to 30/32ish at 5500rpm. Even so I got tops of 226.9hp (the all important .9) at 5100rpm, and torque stump pulling torque from 2500rpm onwards, so it would probably be best for me to keep te engine lazy and short shift!

Regards
Iain

mongoose

4,360 posts

260 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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chassis 33 said:
I've now dropped it to 41psi at idle which drops to 30/32ish at 5500rpm.
Why does your pressure drop off then Ian?Sorry i cant help you about whether or not the high pressure would have damaged your injectors.Cheers,Mike

eliot

11,692 posts

259 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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mongoose said:
chassis 33 said:
I've now dropped it to 41psi at idle which drops to 30/32ish at 5500rpm.
Why does your pressure drop off then Ian?Sorry i cant help you about whether or not the high pressure would have damaged your injectors.Cheers,Mike

fuel pressure at WOT should 42psi, it shouldn't drop off. Is the filter clean?

mongoose

4,360 posts

260 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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eliot said:
mongoose said:
chassis 33 said:
I've now dropped it to 41psi at idle which drops to 30/32ish at 5500rpm.
Why does your pressure drop off then Ian?Sorry i cant help you about whether or not the high pressure would have damaged your injectors.Cheers,Mike

fuel pressure at WOT should 42psi, it shouldn't drop off. Is the filter clean?
I thought that if you have a vac pipe connected to the plenum,then the pressure will rise at WOT,but if you disconnect the pipe,then the pressure is constant no matter what.My std regulator(crimped to raise pressue though)is run without vac pipe,and i thought this was why?

stevieturbo

17,454 posts

252 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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If the fuel pressure drops, you have inadequacies somewhere in your fuel system.

Possibly pump related, or supply to/from the pump.

mongoose

4,360 posts

260 months

Friday 12th May 2006
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Thats interesting looking injectors stevie,are they firehoses to run with a blower,or just bigger n/a ones?

>> Edited by mongoose on Friday 12th May 17:06