Fiesta 1.4 engine??

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andys2

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263 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2006
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Anybody know anything about the 1.4 engine in a 98 Fiesta??

A friend of mine took his into a local garage for a service and cambelt. He rang to see if it was ready and they told him that it would not start and had no compression. They ended up taking the head off because a pin had sheared on the camshaft, or so they claim. Sounds to me like they screwed up the timing and bent the valves, but I don't know much about this engine so I can't say for sure. Does this engine have a locating pin or woodruff key on the camshaft or are the sprockets a press fit?
He's due to pick it up tomorrow so it should beinteresting to see how much extra they try to charge him above the £150 quoted for service and cambelt.

andys2

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263 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Anybody?

grahambell

2,718 posts

280 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Can't give a definative answer but pretty sure that unlike earlier Ford engines the cam sprockets on Zetec engines are only located by the tightness of the retaining bolt.

Not sure if that is a Zetec engine though. Somebody like The Fiesta Centre could probably give you a better answer.

wheeljack888

610 posts

260 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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Sorry for the late reply.

It uses a special alignment tool which sets the camshafts to No 1 TDC via flats on each camshaft. The belt-pulleys are free to rotate and solely reliant on friction from the bolt.

Phil

andys2

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Thursday 5th January 2006
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Thanks for the information guys.

The car was not ready as planned, when he rang up they had just test driven it only to find it had a mis-fire, which they are saying is down to a sticking valve. They are now taking the head off again to fix this and he should be picking it up tomorrow.
This suggests to me that they did indeed time it wrong and bend the valves and they have tried to straighten them and re-use them, cowboys!!
The good news is that they are not charging him, BUT what kind of a job are they doing and will it ever be the same again? We shall see.

numbnuts

602 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th January 2006
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wheeljack888 said:
Sorry for the late reply.

It uses a special alignment tool which sets the camshafts to No 1 TDC via flats on each camshaft. The belt-pulleys are free to rotate and solely reliant on friction from the bolt.

Phil

As already said...Must also replace crankshaft bolt and ring behind crankshaft pulley...A lot of people dont realise that there is no woodruff key and as soon as they undo the crankshaft bolt there knackered.

Holst

2,468 posts

226 months

Friday 6th January 2006
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Is this why the cambelt kit from ford is fairly expensve... yet the belt from the local factors is quite cheap.

I sold my fiesta before I needed to change mine, but I did look into the parts cost incase I kept it.

Things like this are the reason I try and do everything I can to the car at home.
At least then I know that everything is done right.

Im amazed that a garage didnt know how to change a belt on a fiesta though ... its hardly an unusual car. The service manual must be readily avalable.

Were this my car I would have called trading standards immediately and insisted that the car be taken to a form dealer for repairs and that the garage foot the bill.

For one thing make sure you get a decent warranty from them, as it sounds like they are just botching it so it will run