Calculating Engine Size....

Calculating Engine Size....

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slinky

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15,704 posts

254 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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ok, so bore x pi x stroke x cylinders gives you the "swept" displacement ( I think!!) ... To get true CC (or CI) do you include combustion chambers? or is it just the swept displacement?

Cheers in advance!

slinky

bikemadmod

2 posts

226 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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{[pi x (bore squared)]/4 } x stroke is the cc. (remember to times by no. of cylinders.. ..Doh!!)

zaktoo

1,401 posts

245 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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(pi x bore squared (in mm)) / 4 * stroke (in mm) * number of cylinders / 1000 will give you the cubic centimetre volume.

Obviously if you use the bore & stroke in inches, don't divide by 1000 and you have cubic inches.

HTH

Ciao

Zak

slinky

Original Poster:

15,704 posts

254 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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zaktoo said:
(pi x bore squared (in mm)) / 4 * stroke (in mm) * number of cylinders / 1000


What is the relevance of the 4 in this equation?

I understand the equation for calculating the volume of a cylinder and multiplying it up by the number of cylinders... what I'm asking is do I need to include combustion chambers as well?

slinky

Zad

12,747 posts

241 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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The head is not within the swept area and so not included. A bigger head volume would only give a lower compression and cannot affect the swept volume. Whilst forced induction and resonances that "suck" the exhaust gas out and produce a partial vacuum in the cylinder would alter the virtual swept volume, they are not easily calculated and depend on many variables.

Mike

zaktoo

1,401 posts

245 months

Friday 25th November 2005
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slinky said:
zaktoo said:
(pi x bore squared (in mm)) / 4 * stroke (in mm) * number of cylinders / 1000


What is the relevance of the 4 in this equation?


Well this bit is easy - the volume of a cylinder is the radius squared, multiplied by pi and the height of the cylinder. Bore is the diameter, so must be divided by 2 before being squared. You could re-write that as (bore/2) * (bore/2), which = bore squared / 4

Ciao

Zak

deltafox

3,839 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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Surely its Pi x R squared X stroke x number of cylinders/1000 ? Where radius squared is the radius of the bore and not the bore diameter?

zaktoo

1,401 posts

245 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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deltafox said:
Surely its Pi x R squared X stroke x number of cylinders/1000 ? Where radius squared is the radius of the bore and not the bore diameter?


Bore is the diameter of the cylinder, therefore the radius is bore/2 ;-)

mindgam3

740 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th November 2005
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Area of circle = (pi x diamter^2) /4
Area of circle = pi x radius^2

Either can be used, but seeing as though bore is diamter, you may as well keep it in diamter to calculate swept volume...