Driving on shagged headgasket?

Driving on shagged headgasket?

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agent006

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12,058 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Now this is the point at which most people would go "ooh, not such a good idea".

But seriously, realistically and other such adjectives, if i were to drive a few hundred miles with a shagged headgasket or similar, would i do a significant amount of damage? Bearing in mind i have a spare head in the boot, and a new headgasket set ready to go on next week.

Cheers all

350matt

3,752 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Providing you keep the revs and load down you 'should' get away with it, if its only the portion of gasket thats gone which seals combustion pressure and your're not ingesting / losing water / oil.
Then you'll lose power (quite a bit more than one cylinders worth, due to lack of tuning) and it'll make huffing and puffing noises. It will start to eat away at the head / block where the hot gas is escaping and the rest of the gasket too. So if halfway through the journey it suddenly chucks all its water out don't blame me!

Matt

Sam_68

9,939 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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If the head gasket is seriously shagged, two things will happen:

1) Water will mix with the oil. Surprisingly, oil/water mayonnaise does not lubricate as well as your average fully synthetic, which is why Mobil doesn't add a dash of tapwater to its 0W40.

Result = shagged bearings and/or a siezed engine

2) The coolant will all boil off, and the engine will overheat.

Result = Warped cylinder head at best, seized engine at worst.

agent006

Original Poster:

12,058 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Well, shagged might be a rather strong description. I've only just bouth the thing, so all i have to go on is the seller's assurance that it's losing "about a pint a week". How far it travelled in said week is unclear. No mayo in the oil, and nothing odd in the coolant either, so i assume it's heading straight through and out of the exhaust. Unfortunately, this is where i run out of knowledge of symptoms and consequences.

GreenV8S

30,407 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Pint a week, depends how many miles you're doing but it doesn't sound like much. I'd expect quite a bit more than that from a blown head gasket. If that's the only symptom it would be worth pressure testing the cooling system and looking for leaks. Do keep an eye out for oil/water mixing and if possible do an HC test just to be on the safe side, but I'd be looking for leaks, check hoses, radiator etc, maybe try some Wynnes if the engine isn't too precious.

jap-car

625 posts

255 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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I've seen a block which came from an engine where coolant was leaking into the combustion chamber through the head hasket. A significant amount of the block was erroded away just where the head-gasket should seal. If the car is worth anything then I'd buy and run an old banger for a few weeks while the car is repaired.

chassis 33

6,194 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Where are you collecting the car from? I presume youre travelling back to Cheltenham (as per your profile); my girlfriend lives near the racecourse and i live a "few hundered miles" away (Chester), I could be on standby with my Disco and trailer if push comes to shove and your few hundred miles are in my direction!

Alternatively join the AA, collect the car, call the AA ask to be taken home...job done, total cost...£39.50

Regards
Iain

fixedwheelnut

743 posts

237 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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NO :rollseyes: I had a friend who asked me this once and I said no way due to oil/water mixing, he ignored me and went on the bloke down the pubs advice that he wanted to hear and a week later he knocked the bottom end out the bigends went.

Gentlefoot

101 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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Pay the £120 for a toe / flat back!

aldi

9,243 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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I had a clown-car Rover 218SLD that started loosing a pint a week and steaming out the exhaust - got another 2000 miles out of it without it getting any worse, then sold it to a gyppo (stated the fault obviousley)

Edited to add - the ammount of water it was loosing was greatly reduced by running it with the pressure cap loose.

>> Edited by aldi on Tuesday 4th October 11:06

agent006

Original Poster:

12,058 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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So that's a no to driving it then. This is getting more expensive than i expected.

KITT

5,339 posts

246 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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Chap in our office has been driving his Rover 214 for about a month now with a blown head gasket. The coolant looks like chocolate syrup Bizzarly the oil is ok, but he does keep topping it up as it's obviously leaking into the coolant which is also leaking somewhere (probably into the bores). He's done well over a 1000 miles like that

However, he is looking for a new car as I speak

agent006

Original Poster:

12,058 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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chassis 33 said:
your few hundred miles are in my direction!


Unfortunately, the few hundred is about the opposite direction. Cheers for the offer anyway.

gentlefoot

101 posts

228 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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Engines can keep going in the most adverse conditions however, if you care about the state of the inside of the engine, don't drive it.

anhamgrimmar

1,024 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th October 2005
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when i was younger, andmore naive (ok, it was only 6 months ago) my rover coupe VVC popped the gasket. i saw it the day it happened, cos i'd just topped up the water.

its less than 5 miles to the garage, so i thought i'd drive it in, and get it sorted

que £800 repair bill, as the engine seized on the way.

as far as i know, some engines will go on for ever, no matter whats up with them, but my experience of the 'k' series, says dont move it!