Fast idle test

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Rathcon

Original Poster:

57 posts

66 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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Hi all,
After a bit of advice regarding a fast idle test failure for the lambda reading.

First test results:
CO 0%
HC 8ppm
Lambda 1.20

Second test:
CO 0%
HC 2ppm
Lambda 1.38

Lambda limits 0.97 - 1.03

Can anyone give some help regarding where the cause of the failure could be?

Thanks!!

LandieMark

1,869 posts

163 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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Exhaust or manifold leak prior to the sensor or bad sensor. It's basically running too lean according to those figures.

Beyond that, is the limit of my knowledge.

mintmansam

473 posts

56 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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Exhaust leak, it could be drawing air in this causing the high lambda

From the other results seems like the car is running well

I have it with my car , I had to replace the rear section of the exhaust

Rathcon

Original Poster:

57 posts

66 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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Thanks for that, much appreciated. Will have a look for holes!!

stevemcs

9,471 posts

108 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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What car and any advisories for exhaust ?

Kuwahara

1,248 posts

33 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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Could be a pinhole size and fail on the lambda,out of interest what model is it…

Rathcon

Original Poster:

57 posts

66 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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VW Up, not mine so will ask if there was anything mentioned about the exhaust.

GreenV8S

30,883 posts

299 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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According to the CO readings, it isn't running rich. It might be running lean. It might just have an exhaust leak upstream of the ECO sensor causing an artificially high lambda reading. In some situations this would cause the ECU to add enrichment, causing excessive CO and HC readings. Presumably that isn't happening here since the CO and HC readings are healthy.

stevemcs

9,471 posts

108 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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We had one that struggled a few weeks ago, although it was struggling on co. Pretty sure that was a temp sensor causing it to run rich.

The up is usually pretty good when it comes to emissions

stevieturbo

17,774 posts

262 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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It screams exhaust leak

E-bmw

11,082 posts

167 months

Friday 12th January 2024
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^^^^ As others more qualified than me have said high lambda = oxygen where there shouldn't be any = exhaust leak.

Rathcon

Original Poster:

57 posts

66 months

Friday 12th January 2024
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Thanks for the replies, there is also a comment for an exhaust leak on the paperwork so that'll be it then!!

Thanks again

TwinKam

3,342 posts

110 months

Friday 12th January 2024
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stevieturbo said:
It screams exhaust leak
...and it will be DOWNSTREAM of the sensors, ie towards the rear of the car, likely the rear silencer.

tux850

1,934 posts

104 months

Friday 12th January 2024
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TwinKam said:
...and it will be DOWNSTREAM of the sensors, ie towards the rear of the car, likely the rear silencer.
Although failed flexi sections are common.

(Edit: To clarify; so downstream but not at the rear end!)