Peugeot 308 catalytic joint gone?

Peugeot 308 catalytic joint gone?

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Hammersia

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1,564 posts

22 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Hadn't noticed it, but garage says exhaust is blowing a bit, if you click on the pic little vid whole joint seems rotten. Garage says difficult and expensive to fix... £1100 ???

Vehicle make PEUGEOT
Date of first registration March 2017
Year of manufacture 2017
Cylinder capacity 1560 cc
CO₂ emissions 94 g/km
Fuel type DIESEL



Any thoughts please, not clear which parts I need? Thanks

Peter Bishop

45 posts

263 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Contact your local Peugeot dealer may be covered by a recall, can’t remember what the age limits and models were covered.

Peter

Hammersia

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22 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Peter Bishop said:
Contact your local Peugeot dealer may be covered by a recall, can’t remember what the age limits and models were covered.

Peter
I've checked with Peugeot VIN checker, and all 308 recalls, nothing showing?

stevieturbo

17,534 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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cut out broken bit, weld in new bit....not so difficult ?

Or just replace it.

£1100 seems rather excessive unless they're selling a brand new OEM cat or something ?

Hammersia

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Friday 8th September 2023
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stevieturbo said:
cut out broken bit, weld in new bit....not so difficult ?

Or just replace it.

£1100 seems rather excessive unless they're selling a brand new OEM cat or something ?
Apparently the access is very difficult close to the engine? I'm not sure which parts he is talking about exactly, can't really identify the part number?

stevieturbo

17,534 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Well it could be a lot of labour to remove, so that's fair enough. £1100 sounds like a lot though. But without seeing it, could not say.

Hammersia

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Friday 8th September 2023
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stevieturbo said:
Well it could be a lot of labour to remove, so that's fair enough. £1100 sounds like a lot though. But without seeing it, could not say.
Is some exhaust weld type wrap possible?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/J-B-Weld-ExhaustWeld-Repa...

stevieturbo

17,534 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Hammersia said:
Is some exhaust weld type wrap possible?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/J-B-Weld-ExhaustWeld-Repa...
I'd say that's being a little hopeful.

Hammersia

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stevieturbo said:
Hammersia said:
Is some exhaust weld type wrap possible?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/J-B-Weld-ExhaustWeld-Repa...
I'd say that's being a little hopeful.
Be great if you could expand on that please?

paintman

7,765 posts

197 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Exhaust wrap is wishful thinking.

Remove & weld on a replacement flare - something like this of appropriate size.
Assuming nothing else has gone & without seeing it that's impossible to say.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280699896780
Used much the same on 306 petrol cats.

Garage just want to fit a replacement item.

stevieturbo

17,534 posts

254 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Hammersia said:
Be great if you could expand on that please?
Quite obviously, no it is extremely unlikely to be any sensible or effective repair.

InitialDave

12,237 posts

126 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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I think the issue here is that the garage - quite reasonably - want to be able to stand behind their work, so are quoting for quality, new replacement parts.

Could probably bring the job in for much cheaper with good used or aftermarket parts, but then what do you do if it lets go again next year?

I'd take that gamble doing it myself, but I understand not wanting to do so on a commercial basis.

Belle427

9,743 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Looks like replacement is the only option sadly, catalytic converters are hit and miss in their quality but a quick search suggests that a type approved for your car is around £200.
Oem probably closer to £1000.

Hammersia

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22 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Belle427 said:
Looks like replacement is the only option sadly, catalytic converters are hit and miss in their quality but a quick search suggests that a type approved for your car is around £200.
Oem probably closer to £1000.
That's partly why I'm a bit confused about the garage quoted price, 800 for the cat plus labour?

The 200 cat, is that for the same thing, I can't tell.

stevieturbo

17,534 posts

254 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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then ask them

paintman

7,765 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Opinion & experience of my usual tester is that a pattern cat will be OK straight after fitting but probably not the following year.
My own experience of one cat on one of our Peugeot 306 petrols was exactly that.
The genuine cat had suffered a failure much like yours appear to have done & it was a quickest fix thing to get my son back to Uni.
I kept the genuine cat, put a new flare on it & when the car failed the next year refitted the genuine which sailed through.
Not really a surprise as the genuine was about twice the size of the pattern.

I'd suggest if you want to let them go ahead with a pattern cat - they may not want to as it may well come back to bite them at next year's MOT - that you insist the garage return all the parts they take off & you can then get it welded up at your leisure.

Hammersia

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Saturday 9th September 2023
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paintman said:
Opinion & experience of my usual tester is that a pattern cat will be OK straight after fitting but probably not the following year.
My own experience of one cat on one of our Peugeot 306 petrols was exactly that.
The genuine cat had suffered a failure much like yours appear to have done & it was a quickest fix thing to get my son back to Uni.
I kept the genuine cat, put a new flare on it & when the car failed the next year refitted the genuine which sailed through.
Not really a surprise as the genuine was about twice the size of the pattern.

I'd suggest if you want to let them go ahead with a pattern cat - they may not want to as it may well come back to bite them at next year's MOT - that you insist the garage return all the parts they take off & you can then get it welded up at your leisure.
Ah that's helpful I shall ponder cheers

stevemcs

8,990 posts

100 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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I presume they are quoting on a genuine cat. Aftermarket ones are rubbish and you normally get 2-3 years out of them. You either need to find an exhaust company to make a new section up or buy a used part.