Is there such a thing as an unfixable vehicle?
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As per above title my brother has a 2016 Vauxhall vivaro people carrier which he has for buisness use which is airport transfers he is a one man band and has been building up a good regular client base which is now going to pot due to an ongoing problem with his vehicle which no one can diagnose the problem is an intermittent violent misfire through the rev range it has twice been to the main dealers who dont seem to have a clue or any interest in the problem several so called experts in diagnostics he has had the following parts replaced 3xthrottle pedals,a new ecu,a complete engine wiring loom,3 sets of replacement injectors ,the adblu system checked and cleaned if he wants to continue his buisness he now really needs to think about a relacement vehicle the problem is because he is licensed by transport for london all vehicles have to be fully electric(poor range) or plug in hybrid(which dont exist for his needs) surely in this day and age someone somewhere must be capable of fixing this fault thanks for letting me have a bit of a rant Bill.
akita1 said:
As per above title my brother has a 2016 Vauxhall vivaro people carrier which he has for buisness use which is airport transfers he is a one man band and has been building up a good regular client base which is now going to pot due to an ongoing problem with his vehicle which no one can diagnose the problem is an intermittent violent misfire through the rev range it has twice been to the main dealers who dont seem to have a clue or any interest in the problem several so called experts in diagnostics he has had the following parts replaced 3xthrottle pedals,a new ecu,a complete engine wiring loom,3 sets of replacement injectors ,the adblu system checked and cleaned if he wants to continue his buisness he now really needs to think about a relacement vehicle the problem is because he is licensed by transport for london all vehicles have to be fully electric(poor range) or plug in hybrid(which dont exist for his needs) surely in this day and age someone somewhere must be capable of fixing this fault thanks for letting me have a bit of a rant Bill.
Well it's pretty clear then that none of the people involved have been experts. Nobody fires that big a parts cannon, and can call or pretend to be an expert.Like replacing the same part 3 times, goes far beyond being a complete and utter idiot. And then to replace multiple parts 3 times.....really, this has to be one of the biggest stories of incompetence I've read on this forum.
You could try asking the likes of here for a reputable, competent and trustworthy technician to look at it who might be somewhat local to you.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/214220612119268
Do not go asking how to fix it, or what they think is wrong, because unless you can do very specific tests and have an in depth knowledge of such things, it will just piss everyone off
Although certainly older Vivaro's had really s
t wiring looms that always rubbed and broke.Take it to a decent, experienced, Polish mechanic? Seriously, these guys are used to solving problems on vehicles that the 'plug it in & see what computer says' clowns couldn't fix in a million years.
My money says intermittently faulty sensor. MAF? Upstream & downstream DPF sensors? Outside air-temp sensor in the door-mirror housing (if it's a late model)?
Similarly my sister in law's '69 plate Kodiaq keep dumping its coolant. Been in to Arnold Clarks 3 times now & she's been twice been told there's no fault, third time was told they'd fixed it, only for it to drop its coolant the next day. FFS, it's not rocket science & these morons are charging something like £120 ph.
My money says intermittently faulty sensor. MAF? Upstream & downstream DPF sensors? Outside air-temp sensor in the door-mirror housing (if it's a late model)?
Similarly my sister in law's '69 plate Kodiaq keep dumping its coolant. Been in to Arnold Clarks 3 times now & she's been twice been told there's no fault, third time was told they'd fixed it, only for it to drop its coolant the next day. FFS, it's not rocket science & these morons are charging something like £120 ph.
EasternBlocGeek said:
it's not rocket science & these morons are charging something like £120 ph.
No it isn't. But diagnosing some faults is also not easy at all.But any idiot can know that changing the same new part 3 times over, is a totally braindead thing to do.....well, seems not in this case !
stevieturbo said:
EasternBlocGeek said:
it's not rocket science & these morons are charging something like £120 ph.
No it isn't. But diagnosing some faults is also not easy at all.But any idiot can know that changing the same new part 3 times over, is a totally braindead thing to do.....well, seems not in this case !
My sister in law's coolant issue - At Arnold's labour rates & being a main-stealer, they should be diagnosing & repairing at the first go. Dumping half the coolant isn't hard to figure out. 'kin morons of the highest order!
akita1 said:
the problem is an intermittent violent misfire through the rev range
I have come across a similar sounding issue on 2 x cars before.It felt like literally hitting a brick wall under acceleration, not sure if that is what you are describing.
Both times it was an intermittent issue with the MAF, it would be fine for hours/days & then suddenly happen.
Don't know how often your friends issue happens but if it is regular you could always try unplugging the MAF for a day or 2 while taking it steady.
My understanding is that the engine ECU falls to a pre-determined mean map if it sees no input from the MAF.
On the last car it happened on I had to drive the car for 400 miles (I was in Germany & couldn't get a spare locally) and it was fine for that time with it disconnected, others with more knowledge may come along shortly to say I was daft, but it worked.
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