Citroën C1 engine failure

[Oily Al.]

Happy New Year everyone.
I would be most grateful if members could tell me if the 1.2 engine in my Daughter's 2015 C1 can be rebuilt? It started to burn oil to the point where it became a borderline MOT failure and as from last Friday, it packed up completely on a trip down from Yorkshire to Maidenhead.
To sum up, if it needs valve guides and seals, pistons, rings etc. can those items be replaced or is it a recycle and replace job?
Many thanks.
Al.

[gazza285]

I’d look at getting another engine from a salvage yard myself, far easier and less mess.

[Oily Al.]

I'm inclined to agree, but they seem to be as rare as rocking horse sh*t! Loads of 1L engines but not the larger ones. Also, I'm wary of issues with the ECU. Many thanks for the reply.

[stevieturbo]

Oily Al. said:

Happy New Year everyone.
I would be most grateful if members could tell me if the 1.2 engine in my Daughter's 2015 C1 can be rebuilt? It started to burn oil to the point where it became a borderline MOT failure and as from last Friday, it packed up completely on a trip down from Yorkshire to Maidenhead.
To sum up, if it needs valve guides and seals, pistons, rings etc. can those items be replaced or is it a recycle and replace job?
Many thanks.
Al.

Most things can be rebuilt, but I don't think you'd like the price of doing such things.

Really, it's a cheap car, you'd be better trying to find a good used engine.

Although obviously it would make sense to look into why it is burning oil, before taking drastic action.

[Krikkit]

Replace it, can't be worth spending all that money on doing a complete rebuild, surely?

[The Road Crew]

You can rebuild pretty much anything. You might not like the bill though.

More cost effective to fit a used motor.

[Oily Al.]

Many thanks for your replies.
I'll start my search for a replacement engine.
Best wishes,
Al.

[spanner10]

Unlike the c1 1.0 engine ( very tough ) this is the Peugeot 1.2 pure tech engine with cam belt running in oil ( not at all tough)
Unless the correct v expensive PSA spec oil is used and changed on the dot the belt sheds bits which block the oil pick up. causing many problems up to crank failure.

A replacement engine may be a gamble . Google ' peugeot pure tech 1.cambelt problems ' for pictures/details of the problem . Cam belt change about £ 500 needing special tool.

[Smint]

Fantastic, a composite belt running in oil, what could possibly go wrong.

I'd toyed with one of these little 1.2 engined 108 for commuting till found out about the farcical timing belt.

[soad]

Krikkit said:

Replace it, can't be worth spending all that money on doing a complete rebuild, surely?

Yes, if it’s a wet belt. I’d scrap and replace the whole car.

[Jordie Barretts sock]

Surely the best option is to weigh it in and buy a new car?

Even the cost of a replacement (unknown quantity) engine is going to be a significant chunk of the car's value once you factor in labour?

[Smurfsarepeopletoo]

Loads of C1 on Copart, could reduce the cost by stripping anything else good after

[stevieturbo]

Smint said:

Fantastic, a composite belt running in oil, what could possibly go wrong.

I'd toyed with one of these little 1.2 engined 108 for commuting till found out about the farcical timing belt.

Ford have used it for years....and it's st there too.

[InitialDave]

What's the car worth, and roughly what's it going to cost you to get a replacement engine plus fitting?

When a coworker had a BMW with the N47 engine that did what N47s do, he sold it to one of these "we buy broken cars" companies, and got a reasonable enough price in comparison to having it fixed.

I think it was "sell your problem car" he used.

[liner33]

I wouldnt entertain it myself , will be cheaper to replace the car , stick the current one on ebay for spares or repair perhaps one of the racers might buy it if it have a decent shell

[Oily Al.]

Many thanks for the information. As you say, these things are quite often a toss up.
A second hand engine is around £1200 and the car is probably worth £3500. Borderline, maybe?

[Jordie Barretts sock]

£1200 for the engine, at least the same again to swap them over and you have no way of knowing if the replacement is really any good.

[The Road Crew]

Oily Al. said:

Many thanks for the information. As you say, these things are quite often a toss up.
A second hand engine is around £1200 and the car is probably worth £3500. Borderline, maybe?

Few engines on ebay for sub £300. I'd take a gamble and fit one if it were my car. Budget will look even better if you can DIY fit it - few gaskets and fluids, maybe a clutch if needed. You could be back on the road for less than £500, or a local indie garage (not a main dealer!) shouldn't bectoo expensive to swop it out.
It ain't a big job, not like its a V10 twin turbo.

Edited by The Road Crew on Monday 2nd January 15:03

[Jordie Barretts sock]

A £300 engine. Right. Got a big future with that.

[Oily Al.]

Thanks, I am absolutely hands on and am able to either swop engines or rebuild. As you say, plenty on eBay, but only the 1 litre engines. For some reason, the 1.1 is very rare indeed.