Rufford Ford & Flooded Cars

Rufford Ford & Flooded Cars

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TorqueVR

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1,857 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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I've seen a few of the videos of cars coming croppers in the Rufford Ford. With the steam from the exhausts I assume they've ingested water, so does that mean the engines are trashed, or do they simply need to turned over to clear the water out and be made to run again?

Rob_125

1,603 posts

155 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Likely hydrolocked engine, therefore bent conrods and a whole load of scrap metal

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

70 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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hot exhaust + cold water = steam

Miserablegit

4,174 posts

116 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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TorqueVR said:
I've seen a few of the videos of cars coming croppers in the Rufford Ford. With the steam from the exhausts I assume they've ingested water, so does that mean the engines are trashed, or do they simply need to turned over to clear the water out and be made to run again?
Steam from the exhaust might just be as a result of water sitting on the pipe following the dunking.

An engine works by compressing the fuel and air mixture and igniting it- the resulting explosion forces the piston down and then the exhaust valves open to release the exhaust from the explosion. What is compressed is primarily air and a bit of fuel. If the cylinder has more liquid in it cannot be compressed like air and so the piston cannot move and all the parts connected to the piston take the strain and break. Hence engine is goosed.


MikeM6

5,229 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
hot exhaust + cold water = steam
I was going to say just that, it doesn't mean water had been ingested, just that water had come into contact with a hot component.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

43 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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MikeM6 said:
Canon_Fodder said:
hot exhaust + cold water = steam
I was going to say just that, it doesn't mean water had been ingested, just that water had come into contact with a hot component.
Yes that’s what happens , once the steam disperses everything is ok, bent -conrods straighten and the electrics in the car enjoy a bath !!

MikeM6

5,229 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Ivan stewart said:
MikeM6 said:
Canon_Fodder said:
hot exhaust + cold water = steam
I was going to say just that, it doesn't mean water had been ingested, just that water had come into contact with a hot component.
Yes that’s what happens , once the steam disperses everything is ok, bent -conrods straighten and the electrics in the car enjoy a bath !!
Err.... If water isn't ingested, then why would you have bent conrods?

Steam from exhausts doesn't automatically mean that water gets into the engine, otherwise every winter we would need to tear down our engines!

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

43 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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MikeM6 said:
Err.... If water isn't ingested, then why would you have bent conrods?

Steam from exhausts doesn't automatically mean that water gets into the engine, otherwise every winter we would need to tear down our engines!
There is a big difference from some cold weather condensation caused by fuel and air being burnt ,
And an engine sucking a few litres in through its air filter which is why these idiots cars expelled clouds of steam
I guess a small amount going thru a petrol engine might not do much damage , a diesel however won’t stand it hence the diesels lock up in the ford and the petrols get through with the clouds of steam ..
Wondering if the people are behind with their pcp payments and want it written off or if the van drivers think it’s funny to wreck the works van or truck ,
Either way I hope the insurance are watching these cretins..

Edited by Ivan stewart on Saturday 28th May 09:25

A.J.M

8,018 posts

193 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Most people simply don’t understand how to drive through water.
Hence huge speeds in and the engines die from drinking water in.
You will occasionally see someone do the slow and steady approach to going through water.

Others is bad design.
Sprinters have a very bad intake for water hence the overwhelming majority of them don’t make the other side. hehe

Good to watch though in a “glad it’s not me making that mistake” way.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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If it judders, knocks, rattles and stops it's game over.

It's basically down to if the engine sucks water in or not and how much is ingested.

stevieturbo

17,535 posts

254 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Largely the idiots in the videos seem to do it deliberately.

They really do excel in stupidity, and in no way whatsoever should insurance pay out for any repairs from it

stevemcs

8,993 posts

100 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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You can tell who are the locals, they seem to be the ones who drive slowly and gently push through the water. There was one of a Golf that got so far and then started to float.

The Mad Monk

10,612 posts

124 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Canon_Fodder said:
hot exhaust + cold water = steam
I think you may find that what you can see is not steam, but water vapour.

gamefreaks

2,006 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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I'm convinced most of these are insurance fraud.

No-one can be thick enough to drive a normal car in water up to it's door handles and expect anything good to come from it.

sato

584 posts

218 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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It's not just the engine ingesting water though.
Smack water and xxmph and it is pretty solid.
Bumpers, undertrays and pretty much anything else you can think of will be getting a big thump from a direction it was not designed to withstand.

Funky Squirrel

391 posts

79 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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I've watched a couple of those videos when killing time, can be entertaining.

I think the op is refering to the cars with vapour exiting the exhaust like a steam train. Some conk out nearly immediately others have the driver revving the engine on the roadside. I guess some engines are able to take a small amount of water ingress before going kaput.

Edited by Funky Squirrel on Saturday 28th May 14:49

Red9zero

7,931 posts

64 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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gamefreaks said:
I'm convinced most of these are insurance fraud.

No-one can be thick enough to drive a normal car in water up to it's door handles and expect anything good to come from it.
Would insurance cover it ? Our company insurance definately won't, as a couple of our engineers will confirm.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

43 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Red9zero said:
gamefreaks said:
I'm convinced most of these are insurance fraud.

No-one can be thick enough to drive a normal car in water up to it's door handles and expect anything good to come from it.
Would insurance cover it ? Our company insurance definately won't, as a couple of our engineers will confirm.
One video there was a late scania wagon , wondering how much that cost to put right !!
Mostly brain dead delivery drivers and German car drivers who look surprised when their rental fails as a U boat !!!

stevieturbo

17,535 posts

254 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Red9zero said:
Would insurance cover it ? Our company insurance definately won't, as a couple of our engineers will confirm.
As I would like to hope all insurers would not.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,611 posts

242 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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