25,000 mile oil change intervals on the Jazz?

25,000 mile oil change intervals on the Jazz?

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Whataguy

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1,040 posts

87 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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I have a little Jazz for local duties, a 21 Mark 4.

It's just had it's first service with over 11,000 miles but the oil and filter were not changed.

Is this normal for new cars now?

The oil is already quite dark.


E-bmw

9,980 posts

159 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Yes, however I personally would be asking for an oil & filter change every service, especially if you do lots of short journeys.

steveo3002

10,669 posts

181 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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if its keeper i would get it changed more often....if its being sold after 3 yrs go along with what they say

what did they do on the service?

finlo

3,840 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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steveo3002 said:
if its keeper i would get it changed more often....if its being sold after 3 yrs go along with what they say

what did they do on the service?

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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How much did the service cost?
At 11000 miles what is there to do other than the engine oil and filter.
Money and Old Rope spring to mind!

Whataguy

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1,040 posts

87 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Many thanks for the replies - I managed to speak with the dealer.

Turns out new Jazz are on what's called a variable service interval system, but as this can cause issues like mine they are going to disable it and change the oil/filter.

That leaves the car on the standard 12 months/12.5k mile service and oil change intervals going forwards which I think is much better if you plan on keeping the car a long time.

Whataguy

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1,040 posts

87 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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mickyh7 said:
How much did the service cost?
At 11000 miles what is there to do other than the engine oil and filter.
Money and Old Rope spring to mind!
I have the 5 year service plan that Honda is selling with new cars - it appears that if you stick with the variable servicing intervals then you might only get 2 oil changes instead of the 5 you thought you were paying for.

wyson

2,718 posts

111 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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FWIW, I’ve seen oil tests on youtube that showed fully synthetic oils were still protecting within spec at 22k miles.

My VW Golf on interval servicing at 17.5k miles or 2 years or indicated by the car to go in, the manual says to use fully synthetic oil.

For fixed annual servicing, 10k miles, every year, they use a mineral / synthetic engine oil that is cheaper and less durable.

I do lots of stop start driving in traffic so switched to the fixed annual servicing as recommended by the manufacturer.

So I guess the best servicing regimen depends on your car usage.


Pica-Pica

14,486 posts

91 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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wyson said:
FWIW, I’ve seen oil tests on youtube that showed fully synthetic oils were still protecting within spec at 22k miles.

My VW Golf on interval servicing at 17.5k miles or 2 years or indicated by the car to go in, the manual says to use fully synthetic oil.

For fixed annual servicing, 10k miles, every year, they use a mineral / synthetic engine oil that is cheaper and less durable.

I do lots of stop start driving in traffic so switched to the fixed annual servicing as recommended by the manufacturer.

So I guess the best servicing regimen depends on your car usage.
But a variable interval service schedule WILL take into account the car usage, that’s what it is there for.

stevieturbo

17,535 posts

254 months

Saturday 12th March 2022
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Whataguy said:
I have a little Jazz for local duties, a 21 Mark 4.

It's just had it's first service with over 11,000 miles but the oil and filter were not changed.

Is this normal for new cars now?

The oil is already quite dark.
It is normal for dealers to do nothing.

Is this healthy or a good idea ? rarely.

Perhaps even more of a bad idea on something that only ever sees short trips, perhaps lots of cold starts/stops.

But hey, it can make overall running costs appear lower.

wyson

2,718 posts

111 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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I happily ran my car on interval when it was a weekend trip machine and it mostly spent time on motorways and fast A roads. Got it serviced once every two years because the time always ran out before the mileage. Absolutely no problems.

After the kid arrived, it got used mostly in town, doing about the same mileage. I kept it on interval, but then noticed on the MOT the emissions got worse, becoming borderline fails in the 2nd year so switched to annual, which fixed that problem. The servicing indicator remaining mileage dropped faster than normal, but with a borderline emissions fail, it was still showing 6k miles remaining.

Edited by wyson on Sunday 13th March 09:41

Zener

19,111 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th March 2022
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If you intend to keep the car for a long period the answer is obvious confused