Cooking oil instead of Deisel

Cooking oil instead of Deisel

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firetruck

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9 posts

250 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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There are a lot of stories floating about, about the use cooking oil instead of deisel. My practical car is deisel so if it is true please advise me on the pro's and con's etc of using it.
So I can buy more petrol for my Porsche instead.

GreenV8S

30,492 posts

291 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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Apparently it's straight forward to do. However, it's illegal unless you pay duty on the cooking oil.

Gallen (BPH)

2,162 posts

262 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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go to google - "vegetable oil diesel" search

There's loads :-)

Here's a few:

www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/
www.greasecar.com/

CanAm-TT

862 posts

234 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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Unless you claim it is a mobile arga? and if the police stop you offer them a freshly cooked sausage!

love machine

7,609 posts

242 months

Monday 13th June 2005
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Look in the "Engines" history and my Pug 106 threads will become apparent. I sheared the injector pump driveshaft. (Viscosity<>1/T) and at cold temperatures it loads the hell out of the pump. If you dilute it with kerosene (central heating oil) until the right low temperature viscosity is reached, it should be fine. They do stink though You also have to bugger about with the injector timing a tad, retard it until the clatter on accelleration stops. It clatters more and smokes when you cane it

I ran everything from multigrade to olive oil. Whatever I could get my hands on. If you've got some kids at school, see if they can borrow a "U-Tube" viscometer as well as a decent thermometer/stopwatch, do your own viscosity comparisons with diesel. Kerosene is also bloody cheap.

NB:- If you get caught with a tankful and a few Gerrycans, that's all you have to prove the duty for. Pay in advance. No evidence=no penalty!

stigproducts

1,730 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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What about Biodiesel??
I was in Germany recently and alot of the garages sold this, I didn't risk it in my motor as I knew nothing about it.
Then I went again and had a TD hirecar, on the dashboard there was a big sticker BIODIESEL NEIN!
So, what is the deal?

love machine

7,609 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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OK, Listen up once and listen up hard!

Used cooking oil comes with filth in it, water, etc, etc. The molecules look like "E"s, in order to solve the viscosity problems, make the fuel approximate proper diesel, it is necessary to bust the E's up into 3xI's if you're with me. So, this is achieved by chemical means by Sodium Methoxide NaOCH3 (made from methanol and caustic soda) this is aqueous (dissolved in water) agitation of the used oil with this busts the E's into I's and the resulting change of properties of the solution cause the crap/water to separate into the aqueous phase (watery crap). The resulting stuff is as good as diesel and carries virtually none of the vices of cooking oil. BUT the reaction is tedious merely filtering dirty oil is not enough. Making sodium methoxide is a mess and working out the right amounts is a bit tedious. Incomplete separation (takes time) would result in surplus crap including NaOH alkali getting into the fuel system-not a good idea.

That's about as concise as I can be.