Rover K series

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lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Rover K series starting problems;
I have a rover 214sei 1.4, I use this car on a daily basis but sometimes it does not start from anything from 1st time to 10th time, but eventually it does start.
I have changed; plugs,rotor arm,dizzy cap,fuel filter,coil all to no avail.
It has been on various diagnostic machines but nothing shows up, but they did suggest that I changed the ECU,which I have done, still the same.
Any ideas out there?

kevinday

12,000 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Is the head gasket OK?

Munter

31,321 posts

246 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Flog it and buy something like this.
How much is it worth playing with something thats not worth very much. Just replace it.


1989 FORD Escort 1.4 GL,
full years MoT, one previous owner, good condition, runs and drives well, cheap tax and insurance costs, radio/cass, sunroof, Croydon. £295.

apache

39,731 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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The K series has a habit of throwing its head gasket out of the pram, bin it and buy something less fragile

lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Yes, head gasket is fine, replaced it before Christmas.quote=kevinday]Is the head gasket OK?[/quote]

rustybin

1,769 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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Before giving up on it, maybe a compression test would help?

annodomini2

6,899 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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If you get chance, change it for the 216 honda engined version, indestructable.

I know from experience of that engine, having spent over £2500 in hgf repairs on them.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th May 2005
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HT leads???

bor

4,797 posts

260 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Check/replace the crank sensor. Should be cheap and easy to try. Can be a bit fragile and has a big influence on engine running.

lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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rustybin said:
Before giving up on it, maybe a compression test would help?
Compressions between 165 & 175 psi (all 4).

lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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bor said:
Check/replace the crank sensor. Should be cheap and easy to try. Can be a bit fragile and has a big influence on engine running.
Changed crank sensor as well, no different!

Annodomini2

6,899 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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is it using water?

bor

4,797 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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OK, if it runs normally once you get it started, could it be a failure of the coolant temp sensor ? No cold start enrichment ?

Annodomini2

6,899 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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If it was the coolant temp sensor, I would have thought that the check engine lamp would be lit and the temperature guage wouldn't move (usually the same sensor).

If its using water slowly, could be the head gasket, had that problem on a 114 i had for a short while, eventually it failed. Also had cold starting issues.

Edit: Any white smoke on starting?

>> Edited by Annodomini2 on Thursday 19th May 18:51

lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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bor said:
OK, if it runs normally once you get it started, could it be a failure of the coolant temp sensor ? No cold start enrichment ?

Same problem hot or cold starting.

lotus4ever

Original Poster:

9 posts

232 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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Annodomini2 said:
If it was the coolant temp sensor, I would have thought that the check engine lamp would be lit and the temperature guage wouldn't move (usually the same sensor).

If its using water slowly, could be the head gasket, had that problem on a 114 i had for a short while, eventually it failed. Also had cold starting issues.

Edit: Any white smoke on starting?

>> Edited by Annodomini2 on Thursday 19th May 18:51

Not using any water at all, and no smoke at all on start up.

thesilverfox

119 posts

237 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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Dont keep guessing and wasting money,
suck the lemon and get the fault codes read and see what comes up.

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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Checked the voltage on the ignition coil when cranking? Only takes a slightly bad engine ground to really pull the voltage down during cranking.

Annodomini2

6,899 posts

256 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Take the plugs out, what colour are they?

chris1roll

1,730 posts

249 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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If you disconnect the battery for 10 minutes, should this not reset the ECU and fault codes, allowing you to start with a clean slate for your new plug leads, dizzy etc?
Or are they stored in another manner?

Sister had a 214Sli....nothing but bloody trouble, with crappy running, hard starting etc, and rover won't release the fault codes to independent garages...then the cambelt slipped, good excuse to get shot of it.