Rover/Buick/Oldsmobile/Gm V8

Rover/Buick/Oldsmobile/Gm V8

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Pennywise

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4 posts

239 months

Monday 4th October 2004
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Hi I wonder if one of you nice people might be able to give me a little advice

Never ever wanting to drive a petrol engined vehicle again as long as I live, I've opted for the 5.7 V8 GM oil burner out of an Oldsmobile delta 88, to go into my 1976 granada ghia coupe.

What I want to know is, I was reading practical classics on the bog this morning, and I came across the artical discussing the last of the line tvr, also the last of the line rover v8 lump. On this artical it mentioned that the rv8 was the buick/oldsmobile engine.

Now, if my engine being olds/gm....will the bell housing of a standard rover v8 fit my engine? or when it was taken from 3.5 to 5.7 was it made totally different?....

and if the housing would fit, do you know if the rover v8 manual flywheel fit the olds crank?

Thanks in advance

Pennywise

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stevieturbo

17,447 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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I think that the rover uses a very old Buick bellhousing pattern.
I also think that chances are, the 5.7 would use a much larger diameter flywheel too, and therefore a larger diameter bolt pattern and bellhousing.

As I say, Im only guessing, but I dont think things will not work out as easy as you hope.

Having said that, is the diesel engine the standard GM small block bellhousing bolt pattern?? If it is, then there should be bellhousings available to take a Toyota Supra box, which would be more up to the job of handling the diesels torque.
The Granada transmission tunnel isnt huge my any means though.

What box where you thinking of using ?

Pennywise

Original Poster:

4 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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no idea till i know what might fit...its currently fitted with a slush box, and i was just wanting to know what might fit to give me a little more control over things when( if...unlikely) go wrong

all help apperciated, cheap tattoos to the winner

Fatboy

8,053 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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The Rover V8 is a totally different engine to any other GM small block, so it's pretty unlikely that it'll share a bellhousing with a GM 350 diesel V8.

If the diesel uses the same bellhousing as the chevy small block, you've got dozens of options (T56 out of a 1993-1997 camaro/firebird being the best if it'll fit in the Granny....)

Boosted Ls1

21,198 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Your engine isn't a buick, olds, pontiac design BOP for short and as such it won't accept that bell housing fitment ie rover v8.

Pennywise

Original Poster:

4 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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okily dokily then.....looks like i'm just going to have to be content with the slush box for now then

eliot

11,683 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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I doubt your granny autobox will take the power of that diesel.
Best bet, as far as autos would be to use a TH350 or a TH700r4 (3 and 4 speed repectivley)
Both of these boxes will fit SBC and both can be easily modified to make the gearchange very snappy and not at-all slushy.
I'm currently running a 700r4 on the back of my chevy and it changes gear easily quicker than a manual, sometimes it like a sequential box.

The 700r4 has a lock-up torque convertor also, so in fourth you can lock it up and cruise along nicely at 2000rpm.

TH350's are easier to find and repair, 700r4s are more sought after (becuase they are four speed) - my TH350 rebuild cost me £200, the 700r4 rebuild cost LOTS more, but thats becuase it had all the trick parts fitted to it to handle 400+ Ft/Lb of torque.

You will probably need to change the governor in either box if using behind a diesel (or re-calibrate it, B&M sell em)

Eliot.

stevieturbo

17,447 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Maybe a daft question....but what box normally comes with the diesel engine ?

Pennywise

Original Poster:

4 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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well mines currently mated to the gm TH350, If i was going to the trouble to mgyver a box to it, it wouldnt be the graqnny box

eliot

11,683 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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I know that 700r4's do, because they list a diesel governor for the 700r4.

TH350's are found behind them too, although not sure how they plumb the vacuum modulator [that's found on the TH350 and NOT the TH700r4]

Eliot.