From Huracan To Revuelto
Discussion
Hi,
I have a late 2023 Huracan EVO (640-4).
I ordered that car thinking it was going to be a keeper, as it was likely to be the last chance to order and spec a naturally aspirated v10.
I love the car, and had zero intention of changing it up until the last few weeks, when I saw and heard a Revuelto in the flesh, followed 1001 YouTube reviews :-)
I haven’t even contacted my dealership yet, as I don’t want to express interest until I am more certain about what I want to do.
I have 2 questions which I hope some of the more knowledgeable people here can help with:
01 - Allocation: I see they are still going for £100k+ over list price, so does that mean the dealership is maxed out on allocations?
02 - Value: while they are circa £500k+ … is the value likely to drop significantly on these in the future, as soon as more make their way to the market or a new model comes out? It’s quite a big step up price wise to switch car, so would really welcome some insight.
Thank you in advance for your help.
I have a late 2023 Huracan EVO (640-4).
I ordered that car thinking it was going to be a keeper, as it was likely to be the last chance to order and spec a naturally aspirated v10.
I love the car, and had zero intention of changing it up until the last few weeks, when I saw and heard a Revuelto in the flesh, followed 1001 YouTube reviews :-)
I haven’t even contacted my dealership yet, as I don’t want to express interest until I am more certain about what I want to do.
I have 2 questions which I hope some of the more knowledgeable people here can help with:
01 - Allocation: I see they are still going for £100k+ over list price, so does that mean the dealership is maxed out on allocations?
02 - Value: while they are circa £500k+ … is the value likely to drop significantly on these in the future, as soon as more make their way to the market or a new model comes out? It’s quite a big step up price wise to switch car, so would really welcome some insight.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Edited by oo7ml on Saturday 11th January 09:26
oo7ml said:
Hi,
I have a late 2023 Huracan EVO (640-4).
I ordered that car thinking it was going to be a keeper, as it was likely to be the last chance to order and spec a naturally aspirated v10.
I love the car, and had zero intention of changing it up until the last few weeks, when I saw and heard a Revuelto in the flesh, followed 1001 YouTube reviews :-)
I haven’t even contacted my dealership yet, as I don’t want to express interest until I am more certain about what I want to do.
I have 2 questions which I hope some of the more knowledgeable people here can help with:
01 - Allocation: I see they are still going for £100k+ over list price, so does that mean the dealership is maxed out on allocations?
02 - Value: while they are circa £500k+ … is the value likely to drop significantly on these in the future, as soon as more make their way to the market or a new model comes out? It’s quite a big step up price wise to switch car, so would really welcome some insight.
Thank you in advance for your help.
1. They are not. Plenty sitting around unsold, just talk to a few dealers who will magically find you a car in seconds.I have a late 2023 Huracan EVO (640-4).
I ordered that car thinking it was going to be a keeper, as it was likely to be the last chance to order and spec a naturally aspirated v10.
I love the car, and had zero intention of changing it up until the last few weeks, when I saw and heard a Revuelto in the flesh, followed 1001 YouTube reviews :-)
I haven’t even contacted my dealership yet, as I don’t want to express interest until I am more certain about what I want to do.
I have 2 questions which I hope some of the more knowledgeable people here can help with:
01 - Allocation: I see they are still going for £100k+ over list price, so does that mean the dealership is maxed out on allocations?
02 - Value: while they are circa £500k+ … is the value likely to drop significantly on these in the future, as soon as more make their way to the market or a new model comes out? It’s quite a big step up price wise to switch car, so would really welcome some insight.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Edited by oo7ml on Saturday 11th January 09:26
2. Many early owners have already taken a £100k bath. Expect to lose plenty more in the next two years.
Was just discussing yesterday with a very longstanding UK Lambo employee. Personally I would stick with what you have unless you want to burn a lot of money. A late Aventador would be my pick in contrast and at least £200k cheaper.
cgt2 said:
1. They are not. Plenty sitting around unsold, just talk to a few dealers who will magically find you a car in seconds.
2. Many early owners have already taken a £100k bath. Expect to lose plenty more in the next two years.
Was just discussing yesterday with a very longstanding UK Lambo employee. Personally I would stick with what you have unless you want to burn a lot of money. A late Aventador would be my pick in contrast and at least £200k cheaper.
100%2. Many early owners have already taken a £100k bath. Expect to lose plenty more in the next two years.
Was just discussing yesterday with a very longstanding UK Lambo employee. Personally I would stick with what you have unless you want to burn a lot of money. A late Aventador would be my pick in contrast and at least £200k cheaper.
They were too expensive and too many of them to retain value.
oo7ml said:
Thank you.
Yes, my concern is that they follow the same trend as the SF90.
I find it strange that every single car advertised is well over list.
A lot of opaque advertising masking the real situation. Partly driven by the manufacturer, dealers forced to take demonstrators/stock cars and SOR customers trying not to face the reality of what they were told was a rock solid investment.Yes, my concern is that they follow the same trend as the SF90.
I find it strange that every single car advertised is well over list.
Pick up the phone and the real picture will emerge.
If you look at the trajectory of 296 which is a much cheaper, better and more usable car, expect to see a £300k Revuelto within two years.
I've just been through the 12 cars on AT using the Price Tracker addon, in case it illuminates the market at all:
Advertised 29/05/2024 Total change -£259,495 (-32%)
Advertised 28/06/2024 Total change -£50,000 (-8%)
Advertised 15/08/2024 Total change -£120,000 (-18%)
Advertised 16/09/2024 Total change -£50,000 (-8%)
Advertised 24/10/2024 Total change -£35,000 (-6%)
Advertised 07/11/2024 Total change -£35,050 (-7%)
Advertised 18/11/2024 Total change +£13,505 (+3%)
Advertised 20/11/2024 No change
Advertised 22/11/2024 No change
Advertised 29/11/2024 Total change -£20,000 (-3%)
Advertised 04/12/2024 No change
Advertised 10/12/2024 No change
Worth noting that many of these cars will have been specced up from £452k basic, so may not be that much above their actual new price paid, albeit still above list.
Since the Revuelto isn't limited production and I wouldn't think there's that much scope for Lamborghini to drastically raise the entry price over the next couple of years, my best guess would be that they'll end up being worth £300-400k in 18 months.
On another aspect, you may be well aware, but if it were me I'd be slightly concerned about how much larger the Revuelto is (particularly the width):
Huracan Evo 4520L x 1924W x 1165H
Revuelto 4947L x 2033W x 1160H
but obviously whether this matters at all depends mainly where you plan to drive it.
Advertised 29/05/2024 Total change -£259,495 (-32%)
Advertised 28/06/2024 Total change -£50,000 (-8%)
Advertised 15/08/2024 Total change -£120,000 (-18%)
Advertised 16/09/2024 Total change -£50,000 (-8%)
Advertised 24/10/2024 Total change -£35,000 (-6%)
Advertised 07/11/2024 Total change -£35,050 (-7%)
Advertised 18/11/2024 Total change +£13,505 (+3%)
Advertised 20/11/2024 No change
Advertised 22/11/2024 No change
Advertised 29/11/2024 Total change -£20,000 (-3%)
Advertised 04/12/2024 No change
Advertised 10/12/2024 No change
Worth noting that many of these cars will have been specced up from £452k basic, so may not be that much above their actual new price paid, albeit still above list.
Since the Revuelto isn't limited production and I wouldn't think there's that much scope for Lamborghini to drastically raise the entry price over the next couple of years, my best guess would be that they'll end up being worth £300-400k in 18 months.
On another aspect, you may be well aware, but if it were me I'd be slightly concerned about how much larger the Revuelto is (particularly the width):
Huracan Evo 4520L x 1924W x 1165H
Revuelto 4947L x 2033W x 1160H
but obviously whether this matters at all depends mainly where you plan to drive it.
cgt2 said:
oo7ml said:
Thank you.
Yes, my concern is that they follow the same trend as the SF90.
I find it strange that every single car advertised is well over list.
A lot of opaque advertising masking the real situation. Partly driven by the manufacturer, dealers forced to take demonstrators/stock cars and SOR customers trying not to face the reality of what they were told was a rock solid investment.Yes, my concern is that they follow the same trend as the SF90.
I find it strange that every single car advertised is well over list.
Pick up the phone and the real picture will emerge.
If you look at the trajectory of 296 which is a much cheaper, better and more usable car, expect to see a £300k Revuelto within two years.
The Revuelto is built to customer order, and other than dealer demonstrators there are no “stock” cars being pushed on the network by Lamborghini. Anyone who placed an order had to sign a document requiring them to sell through the Lamborghini network in the first year after purchase or face a ban from any new allocations. So cars for sale now will either be:
- early dealer demonstrators sold through Lamborghini
- cars on SOR through a Lamborghini dealer after the customer took delivery
- cars on SOR through a supercar dealer after the car was offered back to Lamborghini who gave permission, or the customer just doesn’t care about being blacklisted
So you could call the dealer and they may have someone who has expressed interest in not taking their allocation after paying what was probably a £40-£50k deposit, or has taken the car and immediately decided to sell through the dealer. The dealer won’t buy the car back so this will be SOR. There are (currently) none advertised through Lamborghini dealers on Autotrader - but that doesn’t mean the dealers won’t be sat with knowledge of cars available or potentially available through cancelled customer orders.
As for values, now or future, my crystal ball is broken. The people that I know that have actually bought and driven the Revuelto love it, and for the most part have a relationship with the brand and this will have been their 4th or 5th car from the same dealer. Lots of money changing hands, cars being exchanged and upgraded, and no reckoning of money gained or lost, just the joy of owning and driving these amazing exotic cars.
For the people who regularly buy Lamborghini it’s a case of ups and downs, sometimes you get a car that doesn’t lose or even appears to make money in the first couple of years (Huracan Performante, Urus) sometimes you will take a bath to be the first in that new V12. You will convince yourself that it’s all worth it and better than the money sat in the bank.
I’ve had Lambos that made money and been pleasantly surprised, rather than it being a savvy investment, and it just makes the potential (probable) loss on the next one easier to bear. Add in the trips to Bologna, the special events hosted by Lamborghini, and the general feeling of being part of an exclusive family, you don’t really consider each car’s impact on the balance sheet. Just the cost of being in the club.
I don’t think a Revuelto is going to look after you in isolation, it’s an incredible car that could cost you £75k-£100k a year to own in the first 2 years. Or it could hold its money and get you into the allocation for the inevitable SV or roadster that comes next. Your Huracan will lose less, a used 296 GTB now looks like a bargain after someone else has lost money on it, but I can’t think of another new supercar that in 2025 you can just walk into a dealer and buy without losing a big pile of money.
Someone said buy an Aventador and save money on a Revuelto, probably not bad advice if you want the engine, the drama and sense of occasion with less cost per year depreciation. Peak Aventador for me was SV Roadster, but don’t listen to me I’m as clueless as the next man.
Not sure what point I am trying to make other than the Revuelto will sell regardless of price, as there are enough repeat buyers out there prepared to take the depreciation hit based on how they feel about being part of the Lamborghini family and everything that goes with it, and that they might occasionally make money on another car.
- early dealer demonstrators sold through Lamborghini
- cars on SOR through a Lamborghini dealer after the customer took delivery
- cars on SOR through a supercar dealer after the car was offered back to Lamborghini who gave permission, or the customer just doesn’t care about being blacklisted
So you could call the dealer and they may have someone who has expressed interest in not taking their allocation after paying what was probably a £40-£50k deposit, or has taken the car and immediately decided to sell through the dealer. The dealer won’t buy the car back so this will be SOR. There are (currently) none advertised through Lamborghini dealers on Autotrader - but that doesn’t mean the dealers won’t be sat with knowledge of cars available or potentially available through cancelled customer orders.
As for values, now or future, my crystal ball is broken. The people that I know that have actually bought and driven the Revuelto love it, and for the most part have a relationship with the brand and this will have been their 4th or 5th car from the same dealer. Lots of money changing hands, cars being exchanged and upgraded, and no reckoning of money gained or lost, just the joy of owning and driving these amazing exotic cars.
For the people who regularly buy Lamborghini it’s a case of ups and downs, sometimes you get a car that doesn’t lose or even appears to make money in the first couple of years (Huracan Performante, Urus) sometimes you will take a bath to be the first in that new V12. You will convince yourself that it’s all worth it and better than the money sat in the bank.
I’ve had Lambos that made money and been pleasantly surprised, rather than it being a savvy investment, and it just makes the potential (probable) loss on the next one easier to bear. Add in the trips to Bologna, the special events hosted by Lamborghini, and the general feeling of being part of an exclusive family, you don’t really consider each car’s impact on the balance sheet. Just the cost of being in the club.
I don’t think a Revuelto is going to look after you in isolation, it’s an incredible car that could cost you £75k-£100k a year to own in the first 2 years. Or it could hold its money and get you into the allocation for the inevitable SV or roadster that comes next. Your Huracan will lose less, a used 296 GTB now looks like a bargain after someone else has lost money on it, but I can’t think of another new supercar that in 2025 you can just walk into a dealer and buy without losing a big pile of money.
Someone said buy an Aventador and save money on a Revuelto, probably not bad advice if you want the engine, the drama and sense of occasion with less cost per year depreciation. Peak Aventador for me was SV Roadster, but don’t listen to me I’m as clueless as the next man.
Not sure what point I am trying to make other than the Revuelto will sell regardless of price, as there are enough repeat buyers out there prepared to take the depreciation hit based on how they feel about being part of the Lamborghini family and everything that goes with it, and that they might occasionally make money on another car.
Hi Roly, what an excellent summary of what Lamborghini ownership is all about, it’s definitely more than just the cars and the total experience is far better than any other car brand I’ve encountered.
The fact that (relatively speaking) it can be reasonable if you can stand the capital cost is another bonus (I’ve lost much more on Porsches than Lambos over the years).
Thanks again for putting the experience into words!
The fact that (relatively speaking) it can be reasonable if you can stand the capital cost is another bonus (I’ve lost much more on Porsches than Lambos over the years).
Thanks again for putting the experience into words!
Bunty Killa said:
I've been offered a Revuelto well below list but it will definitely fall for much more!
Options add huge amounts on top of list, I’ve seen £70k to £80 plus especially if carbon everything. Intrigued to see what spec would be offered below when this is still a rare car on the road (except if you live on Kensington High St). Don’t disagree they will drop in time but I think the OP would struggle to find a “bargain” this early in the delivery schedule? Maybe I’m the only mug who paid asking price!RolyRetro said:
Options add huge amounts on top of list, I’ve seen £70k to £80 plus especially if carbon everything. Intrigued to see what spec would be offered below when this is still a rare car on the road (except if you live on Kensington High St). Don’t disagree they will drop in time but I think the OP would struggle to find a “bargain” this early in the delivery schedule? Maybe I’m the only mug who paid asking price!
The options on my original order form were over 130k. Needless to say I trimmed that a bit in the final order. I just emailed a dealer and ordered one. No prior history with the dealer. I have some history with the brand although my most modern Lambo is 55 years old. I fully expect to take a massive bath on paper but hope the car will only be sold when I am dead so it won't be my problem. Meanwhile I plan to enjoy it (once they get round to delivering it....). It's a V12 Lambo. YOLO. £113k options, so very high spec. Very few are selling on AT so deals can be done, just need to ask
RolyRetro said:
Options add huge amounts on top of list, I’ve seen £70k to £80 plus especially if carbon everything. Intrigued to see what spec would be offered below when this is still a rare car on the road (except if you live on Kensington High St). Don’t disagree they will drop in time but I think the OP would struggle to find a “bargain” this early in the delivery schedule? Maybe I’m the only mug who paid asking price!
RolyRetro said:
Bunty Killa said:
I've been offered a Revuelto well below list but it will definitely fall for much more!
Options add huge amounts on top of list, I’ve seen £70k to £80 plus especially if carbon everything. Intrigued to see what spec would be offered below when this is still a rare car on the road (except if you live on Kensington High St). Don’t disagree they will drop in time but I think the OP would struggle to find a “bargain” this early in the delivery schedule? Maybe I’m the only mug who paid asking price!https://www.romansinternational.com/used/cars/lamb...
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